I here what your your saying here, but the BMW is not winning any races and it's still the king of the streets. I'm sure we all would like to see a bike that betters or matches the performance of this New King that we now all have to live with

Oh I know but according to popular thought on this forum you must win at the track in order to make a good bike unless its a Kaw of course

OK so they want 14,800 for a Jap liter bike WTF I hate to think what a new CBR or R1 will cost.

* Last updated by: willidx4 on 10/5/2010 @ 4:54 PM *

Its going to be a good bike for sure just like the 08 but until it wins some races its a junk production bike

Oh I know but according to popular thought on this forum you must win at the track in order to make a good bike unless its a Kaw of course

http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=5993&z=9

The S1000RR has maintained the same set up for the whole year and Friday was no different; the S1000RR sits in showroom stock form with two exceptions; strapped down in the front and a slip on exhaust system. Friday she made several 9.70 passes and a few 9.80 passes around 149 mph.

Click Here for Video of Janie's 9.62 pass

Something must have been in the air on Saturday because her first pass during qualifying, Janie flew down the track to take the stripe at 9.62 @ 151 mph taking out a local racer on a Hayabusa, her quickest and fastest time to date. This gave Janie some confidence going into eliminations but Saturday just wasn't her day as she was put on the trailer early and forced to watch the rest of the day. Sunday the Black Sunday race was rained out.

I HAVE TO SAY IT RUNS ALMOST AS GOOD AS ANY GIXXER I'VE SEEN .. i've seen 9.60's @ 150mph stock form
so WHERES THE SUPER 9.50'S that reporters did just by hopping on it and making 1 pass

* Last updated by: Badzx14r on 10/5/2010 @ 7:02 PM *

according to popular thought on this forum you must win at the track in order to make a good bike

Begs the question; what did the 14 ever win ?

Those race winning bikes with their race winning teams are not riding the bike that "Joe" the average rider goes to the dealer to buy.

Begs the question; what did the 14 ever win ?

Those race winning bikes with their race winning teams are not riding the bike that "Joe" the average rider goes to the dealer to buy.

I would like to see kawi post the real list price. I think we are all guessing ?

First I'll say I think any advancement and pressure on the manufactures is a good thing. I love to see the HP race, top speed race, tech race whatever to keep it interesting. However there is a lot to be said on "how" one gets to that speed or how it feels to ride the bike of your choice. I love the litre bikes, but damn they kill my knees after a long straight line. Im no bagger, but I like to enjoy a long stretch of sweepers before I tear up the twisties too. No doubt the BMW is sick fast, but I rode a 2008 zx-10 and hated it. That position and cardboard seat suck. I just bought my 14 and love every second on it, it ain't goin anywhere soon. As for de-throning the hypersports.....I do hope this race brings out the best for the big Kaw, hell maybe Honda will get in the class again. However for the most part, most riders can't even begin to wring out the litre bikes, so I don't think they are going to leave us streeters in the dust just yet. Just my two cents.

I would like to see kawi post the real list price. I think we are all guessing ?

* Last updated by: willidx4 on 10/5/2010 @ 7:28 PM *

This was a surprise

However the full story hasn't been told yet - specifically the part about the Stateside ZX-10R NOT matching the 200+ horsepower numbers of the Euro model. To satisfy government regulations, the US version will ship with a lower RPM ceiling plus currently unknown additional electronic restrictions. Kawasaki's Odeon Dy stressed that the engine mechanicals between the US and its European counterpart are identical.

Thankfully there is a glimmer of hope for the USA's power junkies... those restrictions should be fairly easy to get around, likely in the form of an aftermarket exhaust plus a race ECU, granting access to the production bike's full abilities (and then some).

Thanks for the links guys.

"However the full story hasn't been told yet - specifically the part about the Stateside ZX-10R NOT matching the 200+ horsepower numbers of the Euro model. To satisfy government regulations, the US version will ship with a lower RPM ceiling plus currently unknown additional electronic restrictions. Kawasaki's Odeon Dy stressed that the engine mechanicals between the US and its European counterpart are identical.

Thankfully there is a glimmer of hope for the USA's power junkies... those restrictions should be fairly easy to get around, likely in the form of an aftermarket exhaust plus a race ECU, granting access to the production bike's full abilities (and then some).

Cool Video

I HAVE TO SAY IT RUNS ALMOST AS GOOD AS ANY GIXXER I'VE SEEN .. i've seen 9.60's @ 150mph stock form
so WHERES THE SUPER 9.50'S that reporters did just by hopping on it and making 1 pass

Good one, where ?

texas . we don't keep track of it cause its not important

Oh great, so the new 10 will be detuned just for the american market? So now its come to this............
I wonder how many ponies they'll be trimming off the top of this monster, probably a ton And it doesn't sound like its going to be near as easy to get back as the cbr was. I'm sure every year they'll take a few more.....How many down was the cbr before folks z-bombed it? I remember hearing it was fairly substantial I have a feeling its the beginnings of some serious hp limits coming down the pipes over the next few years, especially when these freakishly powerful liters all start to hit the streets Kinda like letting huge packs of monster pitbulls on steriods roam the streets. The government (and insurance companies) are going to start to freak

The only thing that is going to matter is how well does it do in the World Superbike series in 2011.

Nothing else matters. All that engineering money wasn't spent to make a street bike. They just have to put enough license plates on it if they want to race it in WSB.

And if KHI cannot attract a really good rider, we'll never really know. The magazine hacks can write all they want, it means nothing until a real rider takes one to the podium a few times in 2011.

Ben Spies has been looking better in MotoGP so I guess he won't be free next near. Hayden is having too much fun in MotoGP too, though not doing that well. Wonder who they'll get?

HAVE TO SAY IT RUNS ALMOST AS GOOD AS ANY GIXXER I'VE SEEN .. i've seen 9.60's @ 150mph stock form
so WHERES THE SUPER 9.50'S that reporters did just by hopping on it and making 1 pass

1baD, How many times DO I got to tell you this...DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ IN THEM MAGAZEENS!!!

but I rode a 2008 zx-10 and hated it. That position and cardboard seat suck.

Sorry to hear that, I have an '08 and love the ergos, not as comfy as my 14 but still able to do a long day in the twisties with no problem. I hear you though, none of these smaller bikes are much fun when the road turns straight.

And if KHI cannot attract a really good rider, we'll never really know.

I'd like to see them pick either WSB or AMA and really go for it like Suzuki did with Mladin and Spies a few years back. Pay the freight, hire some real talent and show everyone what Green can do. Suzuki wasn't winning any podiums in MotoGP but they were still sellin boat loads of Gixxers off of their AMA efforts a few years back.

This was a surprise

"However the full story hasn't been told yet - specifically the part about the Stateside ZX-10R NOT matching the 200+ horsepower numbers of the Euro model. To satisfy government regulations, the US version will ship with a lower RPM ceiling plus currently unknown additional electronic restrictions. Kawasaki's Odeon Dy stressed that the engine mechanicals between the US and its European counterpart are identical.

Thankfully there is a glimmer of hope for the USA's power junkies... those restrictions should be fairly easy to get around, likely in the form of an aftermarket exhaust plus a race ECU, granting access to the production bike's full abilities (and then some).

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Same deal as the U.S. spec '08/'09CBR1000RR and the '07/'08 ZX-6R....... gutted for U.S. consumption, the Euros always seem to get the real deal. The manufacturer usually leaves a backdoor fix open though and then "leaks" it out to the press. Like the infamous "wheelie wire" on the 6Rs. Too bad though, if it is restricted it may not have what it takes to win any shootouts over here and unfortunately that is what helps to sell bikes. This bike is all about topend, if you take that away you have nothing but a gutless midrange and soft bottom end left. I think I'll keep my GenIII.

Oh great, so the new 10 will be detuned just for the american market? So now its come to this............

Did you know that, right now, if you went to the U.K., you could buy a Volkswagen Pugo (diesel) that gets 75+ MPG and costs under 15k USD? There are more than a few bikes that we (U.S.) can't get right now because of demand and regulations restrictions. I'm not saying this is a good or a bad thing, necessarily. If you think about it, in the more populated areas such as L.A. where smog has long been a problem, I believe it's necessary to raise the bar on emissions standards to try and "de-smog-ify". We all need to do our part to keep our carbon footprints minimal for Mother Earth and all. This creates fodder for a whole other discussion, but electric cars have been around for a very long time and we're still stuck with low-range, inefficient vehicles that cost an arm and a leg. I'm somewhat of a conspiracy theorist (and yes, admittedly without all of the facts to back it up), but I believe oil companies are stifling R&D for electric solutions. I'd literally buy an electric bike today if it met all of my requirements, i.e. 150+-mile range, reliable, low maintenance, charging stations close to work, etc.

Getting back to my original point, I believe the new '10 will be formidable, reading about the specs. I don't think anyone should count it out, but yes, I agree the price point is daunting.

Geeez, almost fifteen grand and gutted for the U.S. Market? My enthusiasm is waning fast. On the brighter side, with that kind of a price tag and probably imported in limited numbers, it should do wonders for our older ZX-10s in the resale value department.

I wonder how many ponies they'll be trimming off the top of this monster, probably a ton

Howz come the U.S. spec Beemer didn't get gutted...or did it? I think they were doing 175 rear wheel here and over 180 on Euro dynos.

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Howz come the U.S. spec Beemer didn't get gutted...or did it? I think they were doing 175 rear wheel here and over 180 on Euro dynos.

Superior design.