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2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/01/10 2:04 PM

It's oficial, Kawasaki Europe leaked everything, 207 HP with Ram Air, a wet, fully fueled weight of 435 lbs, titanium headers, race ABS, MotoGP traction control.... frickin unbelievable KHI. BMW get ready, Big Green is a 'comin!

KHI early released the full specs, view brochure in full screen mode here:

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/10/207-hp-full-details-on-the-2011-kawasaki-zx-10r/#more-10427


I want one..........now!


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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/01/10 2:21 PM

Whoa, reading the brochure reveals that the torque curve has been moved way up in the rpm range ala BMW at the expense of midrange. I'm thinking 14,000 rpm power peak here. They're going exact opposite the direction that Honda took with their '08 - '10 CBR 1000RR. Is this the beginning of two very different philosphies. The midrange rich CBR seems to work well on shorter american tracks while the Beemer dominated on faster flowing Euro tracks. This is going to get interesting, can't wait for the liter shootouts to begin next year.



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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/01/10 5:00 PM

I just got my wife used to my 14 and M109, Gonna have to wait this would be divorce me material.



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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/01/10 6:19 PM

Kawi's doing what they gotta do to beat the beemer in the purchasing publics eye

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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/01/10 7:16 PM

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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/01/10 7:37 PM

a wet, fully fueled weight of 435 lbs, titanium headers, race ABS, MotoGP traction control


Hold it now, maybe I jumped the gun. In Canada the BMW was 22,500.00. If kawi Price is 15,000.00, it's mine. I got my ass kicked this summer by all the 1000s. My Turn next year, Weeeeee. Bring it. Lets Play. No, the 14 will never be 4 sale. Big bore kit here we come. Sorry guys, the stage has changed, I'm selling out. Had a bad summer. Sorry but my Sweety has a FAT ASS and needs more power. Saddle bags for 2011 ,,,NEVER. Sorry boys, but change with the changing times or become extinct.

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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/01/10 8:45 PM

Wow, it looks like a trick machine! I like the rear shock assy, sort of like the old Yamaha dirt bike Monoshock!



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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/01/10 8:55 PM

Have ya seen the Z1000S yet???



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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/01/10 10:05 PM

I love everything about this bike, except for that dad-blasted rear fender. Really Kawi? You're seriously going to put that fugly fender on it after all the other styling changes?! Sigh... I know, I know, it's easy enough to replace. Just seems like they should realize how much cleaner it could look..



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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/02/10 4:58 AM

The only thing I've ever cared about the kawi's I've owned was the engine, and more specifically, the amount of power it put out. To me a bikes beauty is in the throttle......and I think this new 10 is going to be gorgeous

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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/02/10 7:31 AM

Love reading the comment section.

(Bitching) I still HATE the wheels, 330g + 490g liter or not.

Xhaust”Bladder” can be easely removed “for competion only”…lol.Ok.

I can’t wait to see a match with the S1000RR.

I hope this is the start of a FULL BLOWN HP WAR and push the other OEMs to bring their A-GAME out there.

Are u listening FAT ASS HONDA, BROKE SLACKER SUZUKI & PRETZEL CRANK YAMAHA ? I want to see DI next year on bikes…or else. lol.


And this guy is already crying Foul. Makes some good points.

I must say though, I take issue with the 207 HP (*with RAM air) figure. Just give us the SAE ratings! Comparing power figures between different bikes is difficult enough WITH a standardized system. Throwing “RAM air” into the mix is just inviting a numbers war with inflated, best-case-scenario figures. I mean, c’mon Kawasaki, at least tell us what speed that claimed power figure is at. For all we know you threw the bike on a dyno in a 300 mph wind tunnel. “Max Power” indeed.

Consider this. Kawasaki is claiming a 4.9% increase in power with RAM air. Let’s say the bike is operating at roughly standard atmospheric conditions – around 20°C and 1 ATM (101325 Pa), with an air density of 1.204 kg/m3. To make 4.9% more power, the engine needs roughly 4.9% more air (pressure). Assuming you could isentropically slow down the incoming air and achieve the full stagnation pressure in the airbox (not realistic at all), the bike would need to be going 90.8 m/s, or 203 mph, to realize that 4.9% increase in static pressure in the airbox. While I’m sure the bike can go close to that fast, who really cares how much power it makes at such impractical velocities, other than nutjobs like NYC Fastest or Salt Flats racers

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Just read the comparison, it is great news and these bikes are going to sell at the $13250 if that base price holds-up! If the ABS comes-in at $750 or less, there will be a lot of loaded 2011 10R’s rolling out of the showrooms. One for me in green included!
Perfect compliment to my 03? 12R and 05? 10R. Way to go Kawasaki, businessmen who actually understand the markets they sell-in!


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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/02/10 5:25 PM

Kawi has always added in the ram air hp numbers ever since they've had ram air, just to inflate their numbers. At least they do give hp ratings with and without ram air factored in tho.....which I think is pretty fair

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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/04/10 8:55 AM

The original 2006 ZX-14, KHI claimed 197 hp with ram if I remember correctly and the bike actually delivered between 170-175 rear wheel hp depending on whose dyno you believed.

Based on this, I am going to go out on a limb here and say this bike is going to make between 175 and 180 hp rear wheel HP right out of the box. Hope I'm right, that's right in Beemer territory.



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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/04/10 9:04 AM

I got my ass kicked this summer by all the 1000s.

Next year should be the year the 14 gets a major update. I'm thinking new styling, sharper oragami creases like the new 10R(yuk)and a major boost in thrust. This bike needs 190 plus rear wheel HP to continue to call itself a hyperbike or they can fold up, go home and abdicate the crown to the liter bikes. The Busa and 14 were once dominant species but not anymore, time for an update KHI, punch that sucker out past 1400cc, bump the compression ratio a tad, heat up the cam profiles a bit and knock a few pounds off here and there and you're back in the game. If not change the name to sport tourer and put some matching hard bags on it.



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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/04/10 9:51 AM

Next year should be the year the 14 gets a major update. I'm thinking new styling, sharper oragami creases like the new 10R(yuk)and a major boost in thrust. This bike needs 190 plus rear wheel HP to continue to call itself a hyperbike or they can fold up, go home and abdicate the crown to the liter bikes. The Busa and 14 were once dominant species but not anymore, time for an update KHI, punch that sucker out past 1400cc, bump the compression ratio a tad, heat up the cam profiles a bit and knock a few pounds off here and there and you're back in the game. If not change the name to sport tourer and put some matching hard bags on it.


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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/04/10 5:25 PM

Be nice to see the hyperbikes refind their place in the performance spectrum but no way would I be buying a new one a long time. Ha - performance improvement is always welcome but I need that like I need a hole in the head. I don't think I'd missing much by sticking to what i have for the next 6 years. Maybe I will be as good as my G2 hyperbike by that time and something with more potential will start to look a lot better. Or who knows? ---maybe I will have come to my senses by then. For now, I think going to a smaller bike is where we are going to find new thrills and I for one don't think that needs to be a brand new smaller bike.



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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/04/10 9:27 PM

let me be the first to call BS on the 207 HP and 435 wet weight.Using the KHI BS correction factor that works out to be 450lbs wet and 175 hp. The Moto GP traction control is the same simple system used on the C14 . Its going to be a good bike for sure just like the 08 but until it wins some races its a junk production bike.


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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/04/10 9:30 PM

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slow down Romans it might make the same 200hp the 06 zx14 made which for some reason worked out to about 160 hp stock.

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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/04/10 11:04 PM

Willi you're such a sceptic......have a glass of the kool-aide

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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/05/10 3:53 AM

but until it wins some races its a junk production bike


I here what your your saying here, but the BMW is not winning any races and it's still the king of the streets. I'm sure we all would like to see a bike that betters or matches the performance of this New King that we now all have to live with.

160 hp stock.

I can not see kawi coming out with a new 1000 that has 20 hp less than the BMW. Naaa. I think it's going to be a great bike. Fingers crossed.

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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/05/10 7:37 AM

Its going to be a good bike for sure just like the 08 but until it wins some races its a junk production bike

Pretty bold statement there, wouldn't you say?! So, because a bike doesn't win races, it's junk? Booo

My Honda Civic hasn't won any races. It's a '96 and has just over 225K miles. So my car is junk? I think you'll find that most American-made cars that can go 225K or more have had some sort of work done to engine/transmission. Mine's stock, by the way. I still get 35+ MPG and she still shifts smooth as silk.

I for one am excited about this '10 and hope it brings Kawasaki into a whole new light for MotoGP, but I'm not holding my breath. If you don't know it already, the factory bikes we can buy at the stealership is far and away what you end up with in MotoGP. Everything from cams to forks, wheels to shocks, exhaust, etc. has been changed on the race bikes so, to compare a factory showroom bike to a MotoGP-set bike is ludicrous.

I probably won't end up buying one because I'm still so thrilled about my '14, but please don't call Kawi crap just because it hasn't won races. You're killing kittens when you do.


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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/05/10 8:49 AM

let me be the first to call BS on the 207 HP and 435 wet weight.Using the KHI BS correction factor that works out to be 450lbs wet and 175 hp.

Based on this, I am going to go out on a limb here and say this bike is going to make between 175 and 180 hp rear wheel HP right out of the box. Hope I'm right, that's right in Beemer territory.

It sounds like we're pretty much in agreement then. Weight wise it's going to come in under 450, probably closer to 440, this is physically a smaller bike than the '08s, they got serious on weight reduction and my '08 is down to 440 now with just a titanium exhaust and removing a few small parts I didn't need like rear fender and footpegs. Bottom line it's going to weigh less than the Beemer and be right there with it on HP. Kawasaki doesn't like to play second fiddle in the power department.

Prediction: This bike will be gutless on midrange. Not a problem though, an Akra, PC5 and a custom map and it will have more than you need down low and in the midrange.



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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/05/10 12:07 PM

The Moto GP traction control is the same simple system used on the C14

Have you read the traction control specifications? It is a much more advanced system than found on the C14, ditto on the ABS brake system. The traction control leans heavily towards the sport end of the spectrum especially in the most agressive of the three selectable modes. the TC is designed to maintain the rider on the ragged edge of maximum traction.

KHI is claiming a 22 lb weight reduction from the Gen III which weighed 460 lbs wet, so realistically we're looking at 438 wet which will make it a class leader, right there with the Ducati and 20 lbs lighter than the Beemer.

Redline appears to be 14,200 rpm, agian more than the Beemer.

There is a lot of excitement over this new machine on the ZX-10R site. It is a clean sheet re-design, no carryover parts from the Gen III and mass centralization has been taken to the extreme including a 1KG lighter battery than the Gen III.

Initial reports are saying that testing the Gen IV against a stock Gen III resulted in a two second a lap advantage for the new machine at the Autopolis no less (tight twisty track). That is significant as the Gen III is already one of the faster bikes on the track in the right hands, see Masterbike 2010 where the Gen III held second fastest lap time (S1000RR was first) among all the liter bike contenders.

I'm beginning to think this is the real deal and KHI knew what they had to do to beat the Beemer. It's going to be like a re-run of the '06 ZX-14 vs '06 Busa wars. I predict the new 10 will beat out the Beemer for top honors...but just. It's going to be a photo finish.

One problem, this is not an attractive bike, I like my Gen III better. Will have to see one in the bones before I make a final judgement.

More here: http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/10/2011-kawasaki-ninja-zx-10r-a-two-wheeled-nissan-gt-r/


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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/05/10 4:01 PM

Pretty bold statement there, wouldn't you say?! So, because a bike doesn't win races, it's junk? Booo

My Honda Civic hasn't won any races. It's a '96 and has just over 225K miles. So my car is junk? I think you'll find that most American-made cars that can go 225K or more have had some sort of work done to engine/transmission. Mine's stock, by the way. I still get 35+ MPG and she still shifts smooth as silk.

I for one am excited about this '10 and hope it brings Kawasaki into a whole new light for MotoGP, but I'm not holding my breath. If you don't know it already, the factory bikes we can buy at the stealership is far and away what you end up with in MotoGP. Everything from cams to forks, wheels to shocks, exhaust, etc. has been changed on the race bikes so, to compare a factory showroom bike to a MotoGP-set bike is ludicrous.

I probably won't end up buying one because I'm still so thrilled about my '14, but please don't call Kawi crap just because it hasn't won races. You're killing kittens when you do.

You couldn't be more right yet when it comes to the BMW s1000rr all I hear is it has not won any races. Yet neither did the zx10r. The zx10 was a really good bike from 08-10 no doubt the new one will very good also

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RE: 2011 ZX-10R Leaked...Full Details!
10/05/10 4:05 PM

Have you read the traction control specifications?

yes its the same system that allows for more slip thats it from what I read. Not say it won't work just as well or better than the BMW justbecuse its not as advanced/complicated as the BMW system


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