So whats the extended swing arm worth over stock wheelbase? 3 or 4/10's?

LOL, we are looking at a 1000 that laid down 183 hp at the rear wheel and some people are talking about what bike would be better riding two-up.

Maybe you should have picked up a Concours or a Gold Wing, the ZX-14 is supposed to be the cutting edge of Kawasaki speed and HP and the bottom line is it just got mollywopped by a smaller displacement BMW.

Well the BMW is still rather new and has not quite been tested. By tested I am referring to longevity. They say that engines often run a peak numbers before they blow. There has not been anything that's says how many miles can be placed on a stock motor before a rebuild needs to be done.

* Last updated by: bignibb on 7/5/2010 @ 7:57 AM *

Kruz: "That would make it the fastest pretty much forever "

It'll never happen, as long as the world economy doesn't implode and we don't go back to hunting saber tooth tigers with spears, they're going to keep finding ways to wring more power out of these puppies, it's been that way ever since they invented the internal combustion engine. I think it's just starting to get interesting, the Japs had gone stagnant lately, BMW just let the genie out of the bottle.

I agree.
With the passage of time, technical advances and improvements (in almost all arenas) are inevitable.
The Japanese will rise to the challenge; they must in order to meet the demand of riders who want the ultimate bike right out of the shipping crate.

* Last updated by: DZINURZZ on 7/5/2010 @ 12:37 PM *

I know it's still a little early but I have yet to hear of any S1000 in serious competitive drag racing. All the vids I see when I do a search are high polish marketing vids about the S1000 doing solo drag runs and drag racing against cars. The only "real" looking vid is the night time race between the busa and the BMW. We can't see the bikes. We don't know if the race was a true comparison or if it was set up. Even the vid is labeled 1.2 kilometers. If that was a test of top speed, wouldn't they find at least a full mile stretch to run? In any case, that was a very close race. It may have gone differently after the 3/4 mile where they called it.

I know I might be eating my words in a few months. For now, with all the rumors and excitement circulating about the S1000 for a full year before its release, you'd think they would have put it to every possible test in the real world by now.

* Last updated by: Rook on 7/10/2010 @ 9:03 AM *

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85A7ZRcSmEI&feature=fvw

ok. eating my words.

I still want to see what happens in LSR --turbo, NO top speed limiter, 220+ mph. is the S1000 going to do that too?

thats just the way things roll im actually suprised the 14 and busa have been on top for as long as they have. someone is always gonna make something better and faster.

+1 ...I'm not sure it's a big enough difference to buy the next fastest yet.

As near as I can tell, they are starting from a 10 mph roll, 0 throttle, then WOT & clutchless upshifts to 186 mph. It is very difficult to get a precise time from the vids so forget about decimals. I don't think .357 mph matters to any of us when it comes to top speed runs. The busa and the 14 hit top speed in 30 seconds. The S1000rr did it in 27. I doubt if even a good launch from 0 would not be near enough to make up a whole 3 seconds to top speed. Now if that thing is stable at 200, there is going to have to be something that gets done with the hyperbikes or they are obsolete. BUt for me, 3 seconds isn't enough to matter. I'll wait a long time and watch as the spread comes closer to 8 seconds. THAT--that we will be able to tell the dif in staraightline riding.

* Last updated by: Rook on 7/10/2010 @ 11:56 AM *

Has anyone read or heard about the complete results of the MCN test with the datalogger info? From the link I posted above, it looks to me like the 14 is ~2 seconds faster to 100 and maintains that 2 second lead all the way to 150 indicated. In fact, even at 170 mph indicated, each bike is at 17 seconds. I have no idea how accurate the S1000rr speedo is compared to the 14's but even if there is a 10 mph dif at 150 mph, the 14 is still dominating for speeds most of us reach on the street highway. Also, I do not know how accurate a/o consistent the camera speed is for each test. It's doubtful that would account for more than a fraction of a second. I think we are fine with our 14s for several more years. What really matters is your riding style and what kind of bike you feel drawn to.

* Last updated by: Rook on 7/11/2010 @ 5:59 PM *

June issue test busa vs r1000rr vs zx14 vs aprila results
0-60
1st Busa 2.89
2nd zzr 2.94
3rd BMW 3.09
4th RSV4 3.21

1/4 mile
1st Busa 10.14
2nd zzr 10.17
3rd BMW 10.51
4th RSV4 10.78

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0-150
1st BMW 10.59
2nd Busa 11.06
3rd zzr 11.53
4th RSV 13.08

Vmax
1st BMW 187.47
2nd zzr 184.12
3rd Busa 183.43
4th RSV4 175.89

40-120 4th gear roll on
1st BMW 7.59
2nd Busa 7.93
3rd zzr 8.09
4th rsv4 9.03

40-120 6th gear roll on
1st BMW 10.62
2nd busa 11.06
3rd zzr 12.39
4th rsv4 12.61

70-0 braking
1st BMW 49.67 m
2nd rsv4 50.20 m
3rd busa 50.85 m
4th zzr 52.05

Thanks Will. All that remains is top speed unrestricted. I'm sure we will hear about that before the end of the summer.

70-0 braking
1st BMW 49.67 m
2nd rsv4 50.20 m
3rd busa 50.85 m
4th zzr 52.05

this right here tells me whomever was riding wasn't worth a fukk

1/4 mile
1st Busa 10.14
2nd zzr 10.17
3rd BMW 10.51
4th RSV4 10.78

and yeap looks like an ass whooping

You also have to remember that most peaople are regearing the 14 for the street. With just a 16 front that changes the #'s posted by bad. From what I've read so far the BMW has a real tall first gear and it's having to make up on the top end. With a lower geared 14 it's already pulled into the sweet spot. I think even lowering the front sprocket on the BMW by 1 wouldn't help it much a far as street goes.

It is interesting to watch though and I can't wait for the next couple of upgrade cycles in the big four to see what unfolds. Then to see how BMW counters. If they go the way they did with the K1300 they'll be dead in the water, by that I mean they threw it out there and compared it with the bus and 14 and then really never pursued the competition. IDK we'll see.

Badzx14r how fast is your turbo zx14 going it must be faster than and 8.49. How fast have you run on a showroom stock zx14?

anyone on the forum going faster than 8.49 with a turbo zx14 come on there as to be that should not be a problem for a fast guy on a well setup turbo zx14.

anyone on the forum going faster than 8.49 with a turbo zx14 come on there as to be that should not be a problem for a fast guy on a well setup turbo zx14.

with a Ryan Schnitz on my bike i can guarantee better than 8.49 .. BUT IF YOUR COMPARING BIKES WITH PRO RIDER'S ..YES GADSON'S TURBO ZX14 RUN'S 7.90'S .. OR IS IT 7.0'S . BUT WHO CARES ....WHAT YOU POSTED WAS A STOCK BIKE SHOOTOUT AND YOUR FEELINGS GOT HURT WHEN THE BMW LOST IN THE 1/4 MILE.. it didn't just lose it got it azz handed to it ..

* Last updated by: Badzx14r on 7/16/2010 @ 10:22 AM *

totally re-designed zx10 for 2011 heres a teaser

http://www.motorcycleshows.com/motorcycleshows/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=678756&sk=7b69c602e9bf5fe6a9f9a5a7e117c4b8

cylcle worlds top 10 bikes for 2010

http://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle_roadtest/ten_best_bikes_2010

Big deal Ryan can go faster on a showroom stock zx14 than just about everyone else in the world. The question was "Badzx14r how fast is your turbo zx14 going it must be faster than and 8.49. I'll assume its signicantly slower than an 8.49 from reading your last post sorry if I struck a nerve.

this right here tells me whomever was riding wasn't worth a fukk

WHAT YOU POSTED WAS A STOCK BIKE SHOOTOUT AND YOUR FEELINGS GOT HURT WHEN THE BMW LOST IN THE 1/4 MILE.. it didn't just lose it got it azz handed to it

Not really I don't own one and never will you see I'm not under any delusion that buying a faster bike will make me faster or that I can shit talk my way into to being faster.

* Last updated by: willidx4 on 7/16/2010 @ 12:18 PM *

totally re-designed zx10 for 2011 heres a teaser

Yeah that should be a mean damn bike Kaw seems to always be at the top of the HP food chain but it matters not if they don't come through with a better chassis and suspension setup. I don't think the Jap bikes have to go too far to beat the BMW just look at the CBR. In most reviews it laps faster than the BMW,has no electronic aids and 25 less HP. Let the other guy have the big HP numbers and unobtainable top speed I'll take the better working bike any day.

REALLY? street version zx10 to exceed 200hp with the other big 3 to follow suit. should be an interesting yr in 2011. Let the games begin.!!!

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201001/2011-kawasaki-zx-10r_460x0w.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/kawasaki-ninja/ke1738.html&usg=__nHRgraex76E-lv0wwuAS-oKF0dk=&h=307&w=460&sz=37&hl=en&start=2&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=BuRY4rgqZ5SAuM:&tbnh=85&tbnw=128&prev=/images%3Fq%3D2011%2Bzx10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Den%26tbs%3Disch:1

* Last updated by: scottjkyl on 7/16/2010 @ 1:39 PM *

Kruz you should of waited a yr to get the 10 lol

more 2011 zx10 pics

http://www.autolazy.com/1125/2011-kawasaki-zx10r/

Not really I don't own one and never will you see I'm not under any delusion that buying a faster bike will make me faster or that I can shit talk my way into to being faster

no your just a fuckhead scumbag punk ..and not worthy of my time

All I can tell youns is real time compaired to posted articles. The beemer shop has been letting a wimmins drag race their stock S1000RR and it started off in mid 10s and now 8 runs later in the 9.90's. Just a matter of getting used to the bike and it might even get a little faster with practice.
Be all the haters you want but very few Busa's or 14's find 9's right off the floor to the track.