TRE - say what you want about it and he who sells them but the bottom end woke up after the install AND my gear indikator is stuck in 6th.

Nuf said and Mitter Ivan be da man

I said above..."mapped for slightly less than factory mix" on idle.That was not correct.It is mapped for slightly MORE fuel at idle.

I'm glad you corrected this because I didn't want to get into how richer mixtures have a cooling effect and leaner warming. lol

I'm wondering though.You've an 08.The factory "reset" the secondaries to open quicker.I thought that was a factory way to "removing" the secondaries in the 06,07 models.My bottom woke up A LOT when I removed those flies(my 07).AND...woke up even MORE when I remapped also.(PC III).I guess I'm asking...why did you install a unit that is disabling your indicator,when you could remove he flies and remap with a PC?(although people say that removing the flies in an 08 and above won't do much since they're already set to open quicker).I think a PC would help the bottom end in any year 14 as far as I understand it.

Yeah...I thought about that myself at work last night.Silly me.I remembered...he DID add some fuel in there

I don't think it's the topic that keeps this debate alive but the people not willing to admit they are really just talking out their ass...

Ok there is a air tem sensor in the air I'm pretty sure on that. I actually haven't looked. I know for a fact there was one on my 07 zx-10. and the Intake air temp is on display on the 2011 zx-10. I don't think they would skip that on the 14.

I have a 160 degree thermastat in my massive cam awsome heads and big motor 99 SS I'm pretty sure thats not to low to make the oil not work. You should google that. I'm not saying I think 200 degrees is to hot or overheating by no means. I just think it should run cooler while riding. Running only water will drop an automobiles running water temp by an average of 20 degrees. Thats what I am looking for. I don't mind sitting at a redlight and the bike going up a few bars. but it should start coming down as soon as the fan comes on.

...sorry to pick on you, but what the hell? intake air temperature 'display'?? on the 14? why haven't I found this yet and why did they hide such crucial information from my view? and then you relegate to not really minding the whole temperature issue 'maybe it all in' your 'head'?

I honestly think its more in my head. because I really have no idea what the exact temp is.lol Just this horrible meter,scale, thing they got here being at the half way mark or a bar over while riding seems a little high to me but I am diffrent I guess. It really don't go up much passed that. I don't have any problems with me feeling alot of heat or anything either.

I honestly think the car guys on yellowbullet are way more noligable about this kind of stuff than anyone here. They have also told me to run windsheild washer fluid as my coolant.lol

So basically, you (like I have stated before) don't like putting your faith in a bar graph digital display of temperature instead of an incremental electro/mechanical gauge with numbers. I see you are passionate about how you think about your machines, I would just ask that before you insist something is true you look up the facts or admit you don't know everything and quit bluffing. Especially when you say in one breathe that some guys are the smartest people on the subject and in the same breathe say they told you to run windshield solvent for coolant (which is for all practical purposes straight water with color added). You sound confused. But if you can prove they are right beyond a reasonable doubt I will admit you are right. I don't know everything, but I do know enough.

Ahem...I "THINK" he may have been trying to redeem himself...you know....by actually "making fun" of the experts telling him to run washer fluid.It looked like that to me anyway.WTF do I know?Hell...I get things so fuc^%$ up....couldn't even remember if he "added" or "removed" fuel in my map Don't mind me....I've been awake all night again...it's my day off....my rear tire is showing steel belts....my HIGH MILEAGE TIRE only got 2600 miles on it.....and it's friggin raining here.It'll most likely clear really nice later on... I can't ride...unless I want to pretend I'm on a moped.Sometimes...things just suck!Won't get my new tire till the 31st or so.

"car guys on yellowbullet"...hmmm...sounds intriguing Maybe they're buildin those...whattayacallits....the things with the zx14 engines in em?

* Last updated by: blue07 on 5/26/2011 @ 6:16 AM *

Sha watt you want, my bottom end took off?
Shay, when you were told to add windshield wWW.wAShE_Know_Tick_Key dot the dunce caps dot how?
Shehey, how con you were not laughing not bake in 1999, but it was so in the oven back in the way back.
Shoe fits wear it you mean?
She has bin saying it since that assbackaswordstarted opening up his mouth and not only me, but others wonder about that Dusty Tune is the same IknowTune, I got VOES-Pee-Tune-Preset and you still don't get the quick/do not knock/run the a-N/Nannear-Na-near-not even close = Hard ON SET.

Sha WATT toe you know is stop on some toes and now you feel my breath on your nose hairs? Like, my whizz cares you meet mine like close your eyes, take a deep fucking breath! Not one second dogduedie care who the fuck Q R! = It's not nice to fool mother GOTCHEW!

BEE RING IT!

YOUR FUCING MORNING! WAKE UP CALL! Wear the fuck you OUT!

Rook, look up way out ahead, do not run fast = Ride Smootttttttttttttttttttre Like That!

yeah, I hear you Blue, I think everyone is getting tired of the debate.

As far as the rain it has been raining the last two days here. I'm driving my truck ONLY because I just polished the bike before it started and I refuse to let it get dirty again this quick LOL Which reminds me I gotta get a new chain and sprockets. OEM finally had it. Noticed knocking and bumping through the pegs and when I lubed it doing the pegs I noticed the rear sprock shark toothin bad. bummer...

Whathengineeringsays in the CLICK:

1. Rub my hands together real pressed hard, really rub the fucup you are you don't she it blame the blade.
2. Now here is the hard part. Yes I know. It's the yes or no game is you are the game to bag/feel laid with a raZZor.
3. KNOTSEA a thing do you? Blind ass a bat but you smell hat smoke trick though can't you, yes or no?
4. Heat we meet on the same page yet I have some sort of visual going on? Open the radiator cap and now enter your world one more time is your crime.
5. Who read a book here? Who is full of themselveshoveling some sit the fuck down at me? If you act so authority so help you watch that recalc rug flung right under you wake the fuck up.
6. 60w the watt is you see [fill in __] a bulb and not a clue. How the heel can I write a better verb than what is written INN stone I smack my balls under your chin is like...
7. Waste your minutes down to ear that ringing whine glass coming out again I'm still cleaning up the mess from last night.
8. Yes-tear day is how you answer your own question. I was in tears like every fucup hour I read a post I can't help myself I gotta toast that abstract sent in; fair game!
9. Will get you the next numb beer say it! Say IT!
10. I'm leaving for the beer. You stay here and guard the tre. Give it water, prune it, soon it, tune it; I'll be right back.

NO! I said you stay here, heat the greet keep the flam blow me!
Yes, we are going to stay here like you said guard the fridge, the door is still open an knota 1 on the grill.
No, I said I was buying, she is sitting on that ledge looking out the window seeing if Kawi-Mart is open yet?
Yes, I'll stay her, guard her yeast infected low end, nothing on top of those grills I can see that open fridge door from here!
No, we will stay here and look at the grill not her; it might spark a 4-Some.
Yes, You take her with you so that is 6 hands carrying back the...
No, I thought you were going to go BG-Bag the beer her we stay her?
Yes, well I can't. I have to clean up a path to that fridge is I'm busy, here, take my wall...
No, are you going for the Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa????

Not on the 14 if you read my post through its says there is a display on the 2011 zx-10 that shows IAT's This is way I think they would have an IAT sensor on the 14. I don't understand why its on display on the new 10r? It just is.

I wasn't making fun. I was lol at my statement about it being in my head. I guess I could have put the lol somewhere else huh. Supposidly the detergent in washerfluid lowers the freezing temp of water a good bit so you still have a little protection on your water freezing, And is dragstrip safe so you can run that at any track no matter their rules on coolant. And yes it is basically water with very few additves thats why it runs cooler. again water disepates more heat than anything.

So does anyone know what the bars are in actual temperature? I would like to have an idea of the actual temp without putting a guage on it.

* Last updated by: justins07zx10 on 5/26/2011 @ 7:28 AM *

everyone on here is to smart no more of this debate from me. you ride your high temped bikes and ill ride my less temped 14 while ur nuts burn mine will feel free and fresh.

KIMS (sp) because you are seeing a code display on the dash. Sheena Queena is going to, like you is look at me and shay I'm some know it all and all I am doing is digesting the same shit you can download from a press kit is read the shit they can't understand as if I'd help you for one second round eye? You know how proud I am an all that honor I can grow toenails and you can't sorta click to wear it says someone is looking stu PIT and I need one hero planted in that pit box. A 10x10 and that is a castle to me in space move over I got dis.

I have a "Kwai I'M Making Shit" [up] ass I go. I have this kawi-ignition-management-system systems check icon. I con remember where I've read dis, but is that not some code breaker blinking the system check is check me out I need a wire out of the loop and oops, look how I fucked you right back to low power ignition curve but you did it manually for us not hole don well, get it for you down the rode it, like you stole it with 6 extra-extras you leave it the fuck alone, 'Ping Nuts' barrel of laughs!

Now, do you know what you have or should I have the Professor open the owner's manual and read it for ya? Let me know. I'm going for cough fee, no shoe gear, heavy cream over my am buying... How do you take yours... Ye S eye am. OH LOOK! the KISS MY ASSignal went on. YOu stay here and guard the shop manual says it all, I'll get all the beer they have this is going to be a long won.

Someone did actually put some sort of temp guage on their 14...on this forum I think it was.Maybe not.But I thought I read about a while back.

My privates stay nice and "normal" temp on all my rides(guess that would be free an fresh ).Gotta say though,my riding style can really get my prick to buzzin after a while.That tank aint very forgiving .

* Last updated by: blue07 on 5/26/2011 @ 7:53 AM *

So, if I am saying the same thing, I am saying, 'I am systems management. You have now coded a 6 or an N but that was the GPS, this is our new, we can show you some tech and show off ourselves sorta reflect the tech.'

Shove that right up your party hat you shit on. Whatever you sit out, I'll be sending your own shit right back up where it came from. Not a thing you can do is start guessing here we are way past the curve guy. You are being ping-den-pong'd in the pond with the scum.

I think if you just keep talking, that is like die you we are going to be laughing too hard you still wanna hang out look out? That is a heads up on your dis PLAY!

You game, BarrelRoller? Like you have a choice are you going to give me an education and I'm going to lay out so sadass Ed the WhoreShit, check my teef. I got any bugs in them? OK, then lets write you up. HO, Flowwwww????!!

Justy, will you just relax. You are getting in way over your head and just tread water. Ass long as that is down there not listening and your ears are above the h20, I can't hear a word you are saying. Sounds more like bubbles.

If I drop a piston, will that have a ding in it? Answer yes or no or the tech stops. I have no clue if you are on the same page.

Yes, we have no bananas.
No, that is not a dent. You didn't drop the [pits] purge plate glass high enough to break say is it gut truck here yet?

* Last updated by: Hub on 5/26/2011 @ 8:17 AM *

Gotta say though,my riding style can really get my prick to buzzin after a while.That tank aint very forgiving .

Gotta say... that is more info than we need Blue! lol

Say, when you get off the bike and on her, is that the next face for in her face? This is getting wetting over my head now... Wear out is a rusty dusty hank key she doesn't swallow

i thought i'd be clever and find a funny picture for blue, you don't want to know what I found when I googled hot scrotum!

Ya...think we could pass on that one there Edge!But seriously....you know how yer hands"go to sleep"...yer throttle hand....mine doesn't,but it has drivin a Hayabusa.Ya...you know how that feels.Well...that's how me dong feels sometimes when I'm blastin without a care through the Canyons and such.Just goes numb.You know you gotta take a leak...but ya can't feel anything.Weird...just weird I tell ya.

Damit Blue! lol knock it off

Well shi&....you know ya gotta keep the frontend loaded when yer twistin and turnin,so ya gotta get up on it....between that and loftin the frontend on the exit....what choice do you really have but to stay on the throttle and gas yer way through.Somethin's gotta give.

Is there a special fan I need for a zx-14

slice, here ya go...

http://www.muzzys.com/ZX14/zx14products.html