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Thread: Engine Failures

Created on: 12/29/14 10:43 AM

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Badzx14r


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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 5:51 AM

Petron additive in conjunction with <0W-20 oil is the answer.


Ollie told me you were stupid.

if you say so genius reviews didn't you read your owners manual your bike need to be at normal operating temperature before OPERATING IT

SO THAT makes you stupidier being ollie pop your bung hole. you dumb cunt


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Wolfman



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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 6:30 AM

Badzx,tell us how you really feel^^


Ps

didn't you read owners manual
Negative, I have yet to read one...not even sure where I put it! I usually pour a shot glass of Hungarian Palinka in the tank, take a knee, Pray to zxGods, grab my balls, swing leg, and burn a meter line down my street and then detonate with throttle hand (page 5 manual).

Ye ole sods! Arrrrrrrrrrrr



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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 7:19 AM

As we all know here metals in our engines expand at different rates. Kaw's recommendation to let the engine reach operating temperature before trouncing it to ensure that all parts have expanded resulting in the proper operating tolerances. The engine was machined in a manner to account for metal expanding at different rates, full warm up ensures all the tolerances are tip top. Still cold, more likely to spin a bearing, etc. This is despite oil viscosity.

The only way I could see 0w20 making a difference is the machining was done in such a manner that all tolerances were proper at x% of operating temperature. Drag racer starts bike 30 seconds before launch, does burn out, engine is 25% warmed up at launch, engine runs full blazes for 10 seconds and get's shut off and reaches 50% operating temperature. The problem with this hypothesis is that if the engine ever did warm up completely it would probably cause very bad things to happen. The maths and science behind building for partial warm ups would probably be nearly impossible to understand.

Consider LS1 piston slap. When GM first manufactured LS1, they bore matched each piston. Early LS1s didn't have piston slap. They stopped bore matching pistons and basically just through whatever slug down whatever hole. Piston slap was born. After the engine is warmed up, no piston slap because the parts expanded to the appropriate operating tolerance (in most cases anyway).

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Badzx14r


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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 8:01 AM

I have yet to read one...

Unless your a Aggie you can lead a horse to water but you can not make him drink



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Wolfman



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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 8:58 AM

Hhahahaha. Bad me just being a clown. I have read manuals - service and owners. Just like ramping folks up. Lol







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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 9:38 AM

This 14R was broke in on the Dyno From Brand New and pulled the highest Dyno Numbers I have ever personally seen. We put the Brock 0 20w with the additive in this bike but did not get time to retest. Is it Snake oil ??? Who knows but it does smell funny.

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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 9:40 AM

beast, how?

Yes Beast how ???,,, what were you really doing when motor went boom lol

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Hub


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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 9:46 AM

As we all know here metals in our engines expand at different rates.

In my world it's very simple to explain. Rub both hands together, which stayed cold? Slow in my world, my parts expand equally/in proportion/balanced/like electricity is balanced so equally are the parts and their heat/expansion.

The only way I could see 0w20 making a difference is the machining was done in such a manner that all tolerances were proper at x% of operating temperature.

An oil pump has a certain tolerance or it won't hold the oil but backwash, right? I think I better machine the very first tight tolerance is the pump. So I need to run down a 2x with the saw blade teeth dug in down the length, warm the bearings before it starts at full speed. I see some of your theory. Bearings are lubed. What fails if we have pressure @ 0w20? Didn't the oil flow to the parts faster and not like syrup using a heavier weight?

Drag racer starts bike 30 seconds before launch, does burn out, engine runs full blazes for 10 seconds...

With the fuel making more bang is more heat, someone figured out the bike makes the best hp without overheating the engine. So if I know my heat range and my temp gun lasers the number, get the green light started already!

The problem with this hypothesis is that if the engine ever did warm up completely it would probably cause very bad things to happen.

I can see how you are stumbling in parts of your theory. You are camp sit at the drive and burn out the hours of the bike and where is the speedo to service interval? Why I have to drain my engine oil sooner sitting for 10min waiting for the light bulb to turn on in the dust bowl above my neck.

The maths and science behind building for partial warm ups would probably be nearly impossible to understand.

Sure is past my understanding. Have fun with yours.

See where is my reality?
Balanced in proportion like heat vs. magnetic field is balanced.
Tolerance is JoeAhole and SuqidVicious sort of warm up the engine to check compression. One day it doesn't run and how can they warm the bike up to check for comp? In Camp Knowitall, campeeleak checks with a cold engine so he knows it will start at all and doesn't it take the ambient to start the engine in the first place?



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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 10:36 AM

Yes Beast how ???,,, what were you really doing when motor went boom lol

My engine popped from too much boost for too long.
I didn't seem to have any problems doing a short 2 gear pull, but on this occasion I had something to prove, I had someone to beat and I was pushing through all gears.

As I recall the moments leading up to the end.....

Full tuck..., swing to the left lane past two Harleys - went by them like they were in reverse assist trying to back out of a parking space and not tip over, back in my lane .... chasing a green flamed something ... it's moving fast.. too fast..., must be boosted too, glance down 300 is pegged... catching up but not very quickly.... just a few more seconds might get me there.. red lights on dash - hmmm can't be good, bike losing power ... chop throttle bike is sounding funny.... first thought - don't want those Harley's passing by laughing... see a road to the left, bike in front takes it, I follow suit... shut bike down - sounds of metal on metal, smoking bad.... kickstand down, pop visor, yell ahead... 'ugh, Romans..... I think I just blew..... lol....., SOB is still the man to beat on the street. Time to call the 'motorcycle taxi service' otherwise known as "the wolfman"
Somehow I took it much better than I thought.


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Badzx14r


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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 10:36 AM

This 14R was broke in on the Dyno From Brand New and pulled the highest Dyno Numbers I have ever personally seen.

If it throws a rod next week how will you tell the Kawasaki rep how you broke in the bike?



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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 10:40 AM

In my world it's very simple to explain


in your world the flying monkeys are the only think that understand you sometimes .



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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 11:16 AM

if you say so genius reviews didn't you read your owners manual your bike need to be at normal operating temperature before OPERATING IT
SO THAT makes you stupidier being ollie pop your bung hole. you dumb cunt

Unsavory wimp.

Petron and Alisyn <0W come to us from the foremost authority on drag racing: Brock Davidson.

You wouldn't call him stupid, would you?



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Hub


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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 11:31 AM

in your world the flying monkeys are...

... are clocking your 1441 down I laughed as hard as Jimmy on that one.


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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 12:03 PM

If it throws a rod next week how will you tell the Kawasaki rep how you broke in the bike?

That answer is a Easy one. Bike was broke in same way Kawi does it the second she comes off assembly line. Warm up and wide open on the Dyno. Record numbers, test complete, bike goes in crate ready for sale. There is a video on youtube showing this but I can't find it.

I'm currently on my 5th zx 14 Badzx14R. All were broke in this way, Click Hereall are still on the road today.

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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 12:09 PM

That answer is a Easy one. Bike was broke in same way Kawi does

Oh that is sliding up a few members ass is here.
Oh did Romes send in a senior moment I wasn't thinking of.
Oh the squideliciousness mother tea sent up the orifice.



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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 12:18 PM

Oh that is sliding up a few members ass is here.

Tee Hee. Find the video of the zx14's being built in japan. Clearly shows them doing this. Hub maybe yours wasn't warmed up lol

'ugh, Romans..... I think I just blew..... lol....., SOB is still the man to beat on the street.

Ahh beast catching up is not a win. I think maybe if you change your suit for better aerodynamics you could pull ahead and keep motor intact. Video here clearly shows your suit issue LMAO Boys caught you on vid


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Wolfman



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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 12:26 PM

Brock
Train one eye on his authority on drag racing, train the other eye for his authority for taking your money

HAG HAS IT!!!
(where's that dam emoticon...wait... there is none ... Dammit).

My break in procedures consisted of riding her like I stole it, or racing whenever the opportunity presented...
If they get thrashed at factory what does gingerly riding do? The bike three years later makes 200hp. Proof is in the pudding.

We seem to be getting quite passionate here...

Bless this forum!


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Wolfman



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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 12:35 PM

The term "motorcycle taxi" has been copyrighted and belongs to Wolfman Corp.

Tired of being raped by local towing companies? Call "Motorcycle Taxi" we will tow for a flat rate and bail you out. No job too big or small!!!!







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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 12:44 PM

Wicked pic. Have to keep Motorcycle Taxi on speed Dial. Pics of the Hardly Guys going by laughing would have been priceless lol

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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 1:20 PM

"flat rate" and "no job too big or small!!!".

Wolf, I'll keep this in mind if I have any issues in Sydney Australia.

Look at the bright side mate.
I'll also buy you a beer...


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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 1:41 PM

Any chance to visit you blokes!!!! My pleasure.
LOL







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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 1:41 PM

I thought I saved that video of the Kawasaki factory dyno room but I can't find it anywhere either.



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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 1:51 PM

I agree, that pic and trailer rock.



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Wolfman



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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 1:55 PM

Thanks boys!!! Because law enforcement love me, I had to remove it to protect those who may choose to ride with me. Lol







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RE: Engine Failures
01/01/15 2:59 PM

Petron and Alisyn <0W come to us from the foremost authority on drag racing: Brock Davidson.

You wouldn't call him stupid, would you?

He's a salesmen and only stupid people buy his overpriced products.


you fukkin stupid cunt



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