Greenie... Relax. I was trying to be polite. Not condescending. No matter what you added to the thread, I don't know, did you have to? You had no clue how the carrier got turned around. I just explained it. ROOK took your mm of a penis and showed you about that backing out of the axle. How much more is GAS'do you need to know?

The new owner figured it out. Threadone!

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I will do a couple of wheelies just so i can make sure it works good

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Hub said..."No matter what you added to the thread, I don't know, did you have to?"....in other words...stay out of anyone's threads?That's what yer saying?Suck it up badboy...I add what I want...whether YOU approve or not...someday...you'll get it.In the meantime....the OP and others JUST MIGHT benefit from my observation of a wrongly installed axle down the road...CAPISH?Good.It's not for you oh Master Tech...it's for him...and others.

"You had no clue how the carrier got turned around"....geez...I wasn't talking about HOW the carrier got turned around...wtf you assuming what I did or didn't 'get' about the caliper turning like it did?I MENTIONED what I see as something very wrong with that install...NOT how the caliper got turned.I think I can figure that one out .If you don't see a problem with that axle cotter/nut line up...fine.Glad you're not working on MY bike.I see one....IDK IF it could have been a part of his caliper ending up as it was....I won't speculate on that...but I KNOW what I see.Whether YOU or anyone else sees it.Does HIS rear nut/axle cotter hole,and angles of the locknut in relation to the horizontal planes of the swingarm,and adjuster block bolts look right to you?There's only ONE way THAT could happen...accept it or not.IDC.I want to see a pic of his left side axle flange pulled out like Rook's pic.I can virtually guarantee ya..there's some scoring on the inside suface of that flange as it turned over the adjuster block.You wouldn't see it with the axle all the way back in.You MIGHT see some on the outer side of the adjuster block...but his pic there is too small to see anything like that.It turned...that axle turned when his brake caliper hit the top of the swingarm.That axle nut has been damaged from probably being overtightened.Look at it.Overtightened to try and 'line up' that cotter hole with the axle slot when it had too few threads available to get the hole to be accessable enough to slip that pin through there...IDK about YOU...but I can tell ya right here and now....

Remove your axle(HUB).NOW...turn it 180 and reinsert into the hub..all the way in.Tighten the locknut.Tell me NOW..do the axle nut slots line up like they did with the axle turned 180 the other way?Go ahead...you're the tech.Tell me and everyone here.Want me to answer this for ya?....I can...I've done it. I know what a seated axle looks like.And how much the right side threads should be sticking out past that locknut.That pic shows an axle that was NOT installed all the way in.Turning that axle 180 degrees from the factory setting will CHANGE the number of threads you will use to tighten that locknut.There's NO getting around that fact with double talk.Period.And if it's not seated..it's going to be even worse....kinda like that pic.This bike aint no toy.They KNOW wtf they're doing when they match components together.

If it's seated...even having it 180 out...you can still move the locknut enough clockwise or cc to get a pin in that hole.So the axle isn't marked with a hash mark showing which direction it should be sitting as long as it's seated in the block(the hole will always be exactly centered).BUT...you add a not seated axle..and try and install that locknut and pin in there...good luck...you're gonna damage something trying to line things up.Try it...don't take my word for it.

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I'm not going to beat around the bush anymore... I love it when you two tangle with each other.

Grn said, "YOU need to STFU..."
Goddammit if that isn't my little brother... word for word.

Gentlemen, continue at your leisure.

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^^^Yes, I must say, the scrapping has grown on me to the point that I just wait in apprehension!

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Well...????Whataya guys think....about what I see wrong with that pic?I don't give a sh%t what HuB says about me being Joe-A or anything else.I like being Joe-A.Kinda like...Joe the Plumber....know what I mean?

BTW...whoever installed that brake and axle deal...having tightened it the way I think he did...there MAY be some damage that ya can't see in those pics...IDK.Looks to me in his one pic that the rotor itself has gotten some gouging on it....I'd be very cautious about insisting that "everything is cool' now that's it's 'back installed right".

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Hub said..."No matter what you added to the thread, I don't know, did you have to?"....in other words...stay out of anyone's threads?That's what yer saying?

No, that is not what I am saying. What that meant was, contribute, but where are you going with a bent axle input? Then yeah, shithell down!

Suck it up badboy...I add what I want...whether YOU approve or not...someday...you'll get it.In the meantime....the OP and others JUST MIGHT benefit from my observation of a wrongly installed axle down the road...CAPISH?Good.It's not for you oh Master Tech...it's for him...and others.

If you had a better eye at looking at a photo, you happened to need Mr. Master Tech Can handle the view of you missing the clue about a hole and a cotter and distances there of in a photo. If that was not enough for you... She IThe Fuck Down Clown! Until you get a clue about how valuable a bent axle info will be if the OP and shove that thing up your asstraight ass day is all day withit is you getting hit with that bent millimeter of yours IS!

"You had no clue how the carrier got turned around"....geez...I wasn't talking about HOW the carrier got turned around...wtf you assuming what I did or didn't 'get' about the caliper turning like it did?

Because it questions why you would bring up a bent axle that can swing the cotter pin down it's throat is choke on that part of the parts is parts you don't see, little rubber red nose. HOw the howling do I know how you keep that from falling off, sure beats me?

I MENTIONED what I see as something very wrong with that install...

You mean, something so common, even happened to me with all the tire replacing. Schooled me is did not school you I see.

NOT how the caliper got turned.

That is why you need to pick your tech threads carefully. I only know what I know is answer a tech question that I can handle. I did fuck up in that area. Schooled myself as to brake stay(s) and all that tapping of the brake noise. Did not the OP point that out? Obviously, what else would there be to discuss; is not how the caliper got turned around? After you get done with it, we hear plenty. We hear from the 3-4 shifter guy letting you know about how your gears grind. So just relax if I or ROOK corrects you on an assembly point. We pointed out you are not too qualified to be discussing cotter pin position, let alone where to line up parts is parts like the OP showed you. He's even going to pee forum a wheelie for you so the OP can close with the parts is parts is good to go. No bent axle here. Every cotter in place here is until you show up and explain it. LOL

I think I can figure that one out.

I think I showed you a bent axle, a wheelie, and a cotter pin just get worse is how your posts end up. Clown the OP is dumb dem down.

If you don't see a problem with that axle cotter/nut line up...fine.

Not only was it fine when the original situation happened, even the OP got the cotter distance right. Is there is no other way that axle fits unless you are too stupid to see it. You brought that up as if another bent axle is part of the diagnosis? Well, is it or is it not? No, it is not. The OP did not mention how hard the axle went in did he? How come you did not assume that with the bent axle? I and a few others would agree with you if it was bent, hard to go thru, and don't forget the nut threads. I'd be the first. But it was a missing part, and no mention of threads either. It was, and Danno is going to choke in dis, but it was absolutely a missing spacer insert. It was not a bent axle, say it. Yes or no it was a missing part so in the absolute it was a bent axle instead. Say Danno? Did the part speak in the absolute or a bent axle? So, in the absolute way of saying it any other way, was that a waste of reading that mess? Yes or no, was it a bent axle after all it was [YOU] that said it and it was done was that post back on page one. But no, some sap, "I'm gonna say what I wanna say is look stupidoing it." Is that not a GAS'did question?

Glad you're not working on MY bike.

Be those dirty forks that were never changed as per manual to remain compliant with the warranty schedules... "Whichever comes first." What other messes would we find that were neglected? I can name two more.

I see one....

No. I said I see more than one and can run a list of what you think you know without doing the job. In other words, you'd be discussing sex and still be a virgin. How your bent axle was up someone's rear end is more, we were discussing not needing viagra. And why you would need a pill for that now at your age is still a virgin, right? No, I'm just saying how did this handjob show up and we are washing Cody off with her chrome remover kind of leave her alone... Why don't you knock first?

IDK IF it could have been a part of his caliper ending up as it was...

I don't deal in if's. We know it assembles one way. No doubt it can be assembled your way, but is that the ABSOLUTE way it goes together? No. It goes together with a bent axle, no cotter pin hole, leave the gap there on the other side, it's my bike. Glad your bent axle didn't show up with a set of tools kind of ask Danno if he'll let you work on his bike for him? You seem to not touch yours too much. Say yes or no, I hand off a tire change but can install a few wheels in my time... Say it.

I won't speculate on that...but I KNOW what I see.

It is like me looking for a pit crew. All I get are clowns thinking a bent axle is needed, someone forgot to install the spacer last set of tires. You see that kind of pit? Would you let me in on your pit, you look up and down pit row for an axle? Yes or no? I bring back a bent axle for you, and you now complain about it? Look how that wound up wit someone just runs in, gives an off the wall suggestion. Not even close to the OP's... Oh forget about it.

Whether YOU or anyone else sees it.Does HIS rear nut/axle cotter hole,and angles of the locknut in relation to the horizontal planes of the swingarm,and adjuster block bolts look right to you?

Whether YOU like it or not, the rear nut/axle cotter hole, and angles of the nutcase in relation to a bent axle down the shaft someplace, it horizontal plain as day is the swingarm adjuster block bolts look right to you? Man, that was about as bla-bla-the-bla-was-blabbing in a circle was the carrier, not the adjuster bolt with an exposure time to distort your view. What happened to the carrier not keyed in? There you go again. Off to the chain adjust thread we go. Stay with the carrier first. Stay with the 3-4 first. Stay with the exhaust pipe taken on and off so many times, you see, you hear bent axles speaking to you at night.

There's only ONE way THAT could happen...accept it or not.

IDC. What just happened?

I want to see a pic of his left side axle flange pulled out like Rook's pic.I can virtually guarantee ya..there's some scoring on the inside suface of that flange as it turned over the adjuster block.You wouldn't see it with the axle all the way back in.You MIGHT see some on the outer side of the adjuster block...but his pic there is too small to see anything like that.

What in the fuck are you still ranting on and on about your fucking ufckedupissing contest?

It turned...that axle turned when his brake caliper hit the top of the swingarm.

Says you! Even the OP said he'd do wheelies for you is all is fine in his world is story over. Only you go on and on about a bent axle, now an axle that is out of its slot? Didn't we figure out it was not a bent axle, nor an axle sticking out like how many mm is your Cody? Might asswell bring that little guy in. Why do you think I show mine? You want to see my bent axle shaft entering the waiting orifice of her wet glands are happy to see Cody, he drops right in like a greased axle are you getting something headed "UP YOURS!"

That axle nut has been damaged from probably being overtightened.

Here we go with thread damage, the cotter is in, the OP said nothing about how the nut goes on and off, just the nut that keeps adding posts about shit, say 4 pages of 'boring' shitslinging.

Look at it.

No, you look at it.

Overtightened to try and 'line up' that cotter hole with the axle slot when it had too few threads available to get the hole to be accessable enough to slip that pin through there...IDK about YOU...but I can tell ya right here and now...

Oh shit... Are you still on this crap? The theater closed hours ago. Nothing is on the screen guy. Come tomorrow.

Remove your axle(HUB).NOW...turn it 180 and reinsert into the hub..all the way in.Tighten the locknut.Tell me NOW..do the axle nut slots line up like they did with the axle turned 180 the other way?Go ahead...you're the tech.

Why don't you take that home with you too. Figure it out, come back tomorrow. I think the thread sort of ended with a wheelie kind of, "I got it! Thanks! Got it so fixed, want me to verify with a wheelie all is well, hello?"

Tell me and everyone here.Want me to answer this for ya?....I can...I've done it. I know what a seated axle looks like.And how much the right side threads should be sticking out past that locknut.

Bla-bla-bla-again I say-the blab-ba-blab'inn I will go.

That pic shows an axle that was NOT installed all the way in.

Relax. It's not your axle NOT installed all the way. Simmer down fella. We know you want to do right. The OP has got it, thanks! You bet. Righteaho. Yes sir wee bob.

Turning that axle 180 degrees from the factory setting will CHANGE the number of threads you will use to tighten that locknut.There's NO getting around that fact with double talk.Period.

Yep, double-double with extra cheeze. No getting around the bla-bla-bla when it comes to chiming in on the brake carrier. Got it. I got it. The OP's got it. Cody even got it.

And if it's not seated..it's going to be even worse....kinda like that pic.This bike aint no toy.They KNOW wtf they're doing when they match components together.

OK... Could you just calm down some? We figured it out some. I can tell you dis so far. It wasn't a bent axle. Keep guessing about that axle extension, mm.

If it's seated...even having it 180 out...you can still move the locknut enough clockwise or cc to get a pin in that hole.

CC, MM, OK, whatever you say.

So the axle isn't marked with a hash mark showing which direction it should be sitting as long as it's seated in the block(the hole will always be exactly centered).BUT...you add a not seated axle..and try and install that locknut and pin in there...good luck...you're gonna damage something trying to line things up.Try it...don't take my word for it.

So from dis, you could get a cotter pin in there now, is it could not before? Take your word for it? You gotta be kidding, right?

Could someone tell him the OP sort of figured it all out?

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Well...????Whataya guys think

I think your list grows. I won't bore you with them. That is what I think.

...about what I see wrong with that pic?

I see a few things wrong, yes, but it is not the photo phasing is how you see things.

I don't give a sh%t what HuB says about me being Joe-A or anything else.I like being Joe-A.Kinda like...Joe the Plumber....know what I mean?

You should be asking questions like ROOK did. Now he is schooling squids like you. It is all about design. You need more schooling. Something is missing with bent axles, cotter holes missing, threads deforumed. She it like that.

BTW...whoever installed that brake and axle deal...having tightened it the way I think he did...there MAY be some damage that ya can't see in those pics...IDK.Looks to me in his one pic that the rotor itself has gotten some gouging on it....I'd be very cautious about insisting that "everything is cool' now that's it's 'back installed right".

I don't believe you've removed too many wheels? How can tightening all the parts up damage something? That carrier and caliper can be banged up looking, but is it damaged? How about the hose and stress? Would there be a bubble if that pressure was aimed for a weak spot> How about the banjo bolt ends? Wouldn't they leak? How about the disc? Wouldn't the OP come back say, "I have a squeak now, or my pedal is spongy as if the disc is warped, it pushes the pad in, I have no pedal kind of damage?"

Didn't a test ride, "I will do a couple of wheelies just so i can make sure it works good

lol lol lol"

Sort of tell you about your cotter pinning the tail on the donkey? Blind leading the blind Joe-A's... "know what I mean?"

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"but where are you going with a bent axle input?"...Bent axle?Where the hell'd ya get 'bent axle' from?That axle aint bent.Just like the OTHER place....quote me saying 'it's a bent axle'....or....button the yap about what you are falsely adding to MY comments.NOBODY here said ANYTHING about a BENT AXLE ASSHAT. "Here we go with thread damage"...not only can't you hear...from all those years of tarmac life apparently...but you can't fuckin read either....One too many laps without goggles,eh?Let me clarify sumpin fer ya....here...it's not "here WE go" about this or that...It's...here YOU go with dis or dat sprat.You're throwing these comments out...not me see?

"Could someone tell him the OP sort of figured it all out?"

He didn't figure out nuthin..no offense to him.He said...how the f could that happen?

Here...the 'connect the dots' guy is huffing....."Is there is no other way that axle fits unless you are too stupid to see it"....and HERE,he answers his OWN skills as a Master Tech..."You mean, something so common, even happened to me..."

I know one thing..you have a SERIOUS problem with your short term memory.You're so busy tryin to discredit what I'm sayin...you don't even realize you're confirming exactly what I've said...What a tool....keep going.The more you talk,the better everyone likes it.It really IS entertaining listening to you 'try' to make sense of the blunders you are so good at making."bent axle'...geez....the ONLY one saying anything about a bent axle in this thread...is YOU.How many 'posts' did ya waste on THAT in this thread.Not that I care...keep going.This is some funny shit.

"Relax. It's not your axle NOT installed all the way".Ya see what I mean?...you admit...it's not all the way in...like the swordsman doing the 3-4 on yer azz.Just like ya admitted...'You,me, and others here KNOW it sounds normal"...(but let's not tell the OP that....let's get him all worried and see if we can get him to start tearing down his perfectly good engine).There ya go talkin about Stethoscopes and isotopes and deep throats....just like here...MY POSTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH A REAR CALIPER SITUATION...don't you get it?You're still trying to connect me to YOUR discussion of his caliper position.I'm talking about something completely different.TOTALLY different...something YOU admit you've actually done.In my 'limited never touch my bike experience(s)...I've NEVER installed an axle wrong.Course,I've only removed my rear wheel,uhm....let's see....1st season....4 rear tires.2nd season....uh.....5 rear tires....3rd season....well....5 times.4th season,hmmmm....5 times.Already this year....once so far.The point is.....You fucked yours.I haven't mine.Okay?That cody guy is right where he belongs...with PaPa.....

"How about the banjo bolt ends? Wouldn't they leak? How about the disc? Wouldn't the OP come back say, "I have a squeak now, or my pedal is spongy as if the disc is warped, it pushes the pad in, I have no pedal kind of damage?"...see what I mean?...he DID say he saw fluid leaking>>>>> "i did see some fluid, crap crap, crap"....you can put the margarita glass cooler away now...I think you've had enough nitrous.

Take some deep breaths..get that shit outta yer brain here....the 'bent axle' discussion was....let's see...about a week ago?Something like that....at least that long.It's ancient history...like you...ancient...outdated....out teched.You're in the wrong thread talking about a bent asshole...er...I mean...axle.Better keep a closer eye on yer bud cody....
Need some of this?Waking up with any pain 'down there'?No?....Drop the soap one too many times did ya?No wonder.

"It is like me looking for a pit crew. All I get are clowns".....birds of a feather ya know...you've heard that,yes?Well...there ya are!You're fine with yer pard cody though....even if he's a tad rough on ya an all.You just need ta 'school him' a bit more on the fine points.Hang in there...practice makes perfect!

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I know one thing..you have a SERIOUS problem with your short term memory.You're so busy tryin to discredit what I'm sayin...you don't even realize you're confirming exactly what I've said...What a tool....keep going.

I don't think you own any tools. Look, I said what you said at some other thread. This says that my long terms says I heard you say bent and bent it is. Remember the spacer, space cadet? That was part of calling you GAS'did that ring a bell to go and sit your butt down? The only dis credit is more dissing, you never removed the brake stay on some drum brake. That is how far back I have to pull something out of my as to get you to smell the roses, here comes a handful. Move the thorns aside. Smell dis daily.

The more you talk,the better everyone likes it.It really IS entertaining listening to you 'try' to make sense of the blunders you are so good at making."bent axle'...geez....the ONLY one saying anything about a bent axle in this thread...is YOU.How many 'posts' did ya waste on THAT in this thread.Not that I care...keep going.This is some funny shit."

The reason it is so funny is because I can't make this shit up. Dis is a real event. That's two ticket stubs you didn't receive. I told you, there are more eyes watching dis dis than you think.

"Relax. It's not your axle NOT installed all the way".Ya see what I mean?...you admit...it's not all the way in...

No, I see what you mean. You are off into some other PART of the bike. Yes, I admit... I can't stick Cody up far enough [is] from here.

like the swordsman doing the 3-4 on yer azz.Just like ya admitted...'You,me, and others here KNOW it sounds normal"...(but let's not tell the OP that....let's get him all worried and see if we can get him to start tearing down his perfectly good engine).There ya go talkin about Stethoscopes and isotopes and deep throats....just like here...

Again, my short term as you say, says I need to mention to you about hearing noises. You say it is normal. I say som... And then the OP whales on you once again for some reason? The OP and I have a discussion. YOu come in discussing other parts, other shift directions, other, bla-bla-the OP is going to let me know if I know I should back out of dis, but no, let me make up something so I can have some sort show that...

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MY POSTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH A REAR CALIPER SITUATION...don't you get it?

I sure do!

You're still trying to connect me to YOUR discussion of his caliper position.I'm talking about something completely different.

Then open up a thread about it. Start a HOW-TO about it. The thread was about a caliper not hung well, mm. Will that straighten you out about post entries? Stay focused on the OP's problem. If something strikes your fancy, start a thread about it. You're a big boy. Cotter pin in place both times, kind of you go off on something else.

TOTALLY different...something YOU admit you've actually done.In my 'limited never touch my bike experience(s)...I've NEVER installed an axle wrong.Course,I've only removed my rear wheel,uhm....let's see....1st season....4 rear tires.2nd season....uh.....5 rear tires....3rd season....well....5 times.4th season,hmmmm....5 times.Already this year....once so far.The point is.....You fucked yours.I haven't mine.Okay?That cody guy is right where he belongs...with PaPa...

Well, that says you are perfect, let me hand my bike over to you. Dis is like you pulling out your Cody, measure off how many tires long she is.

"How about the banjo bolt ends? Wouldn't they leak? How about the disc? Wouldn't the OP come back say, "I have a squeak now, or my pedal is spongy as if the disc is warped, it pushes the pad in, I have no pedal kind of damage?"...see what I mean?...he DID say he saw fluid leaking>>>>> "i did see some fluid, crap crap, crap"....you can put margarita glass cooler away now...I think you've had enough nitrous.[/quote] YOu better bring that dixie cup over here, let Cody piss in it. How about you ask how the leak is since you are here? The fuck if I'm going to look back 4 pages to confirm. See how I now have to drag thru page after page to get to something you said? You are here for that, right? Well?

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Take some deep breaths..get that shit outta yer brain here....the 'bent axle' discussion was....let's see...about a week ago?

Well, didn't it turn into a bent axle when it went missing in Ohio was the spacer? It was not a bent axle at all, or as you stated and kept hounding it was. I think I said that first page something is missing? Asked if the tire was off at some time? How a bent axle came into it, I haven't a clue? Oh, GAS'did though. Remember that? Get the shit outta year brain, you're no spring chicken. Remember I said one messing part? You said one bent part? LOL Year killing me Larry! I can't make dishit up it's too funny!

...at least that long.It's ancient history...like you...ancient...outdated....out teched.

Yep, out teched by a bent axle. Guy found the part, no he went out and had to buy a new axle. I got out teched again! Darn!

You're in the wrong thread talking about a bent asshole...er...I mean...axle.Better keep a closer eye on yer bud cody....

You are a walking cody. I keep my eye on all the ass thread talkers from one end to the other, I can't tell?

Smoke a thread I enter is been warned over and over. Can't teach an old dog new tricks or some outdated coinage is a GAS'did it again! I can't tell which end to talk to? They both have the same sort of face, lips, eye got dis!

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In fact, you'll be hounding on about that axle moving cotter pin bla-bla, and I'm going to help you with it. You won't let it die nor will I. One more distorted thread that has nothing to do with... Oh just wait! You'll figure out a way some other part is not involved.

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i see threads on axle proud of nut. maybe its a magic cotter pin,maybe it cast a spell on my gearbox.For a moment there i thought it was me,

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On no, Motero, you are witnessing and (did contribute) to, the smoking there of. Those are the magic pins, super nova bends of the axis speakers. Everything but the '3-4 UP YOURS' did you help extinguish part of that smoking that was happening in your thread. Around here, "It's normal" from the experts that make no mistakes changing tires, balancing them and the like. Same goes with the 'special school bus axles, cotters, normal noise, is it shifts fine around these parts' [is parts].

I can see how easy the net trashes up with shit that is useless if not somewhat entertaining to say the least. For the most part, it is more a dead end full of magic axles and car tear pins that fit the bill. Take dis thread for example. From a simple missed slot to a car tear take a stab at it? And rise does the smoke fill.

The OP will be back momentarily. He went to convince the experts he assembled it correctly as did the first attempt, short of what WAS the complaint. Now we have a mystery pin not inserting as the box in the round hole tries to fit in that puzzle pieces.

They have donuts here too you know. While waiting for the OP to come back on one wheel... Try the danish.

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I like being Joe-A.Kinda like...Joe the Plumber....know what I mean?

F%$#K yeah! I wish to hell I was a plumber, a city garbage collector....all sorts of stuff I wish I was now that I never thought I'd wanna be.

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maybe its a magic cotter pin,maybe it cast a spell on my gearbox.

I don't know about the cotter pin part, but if you have a gearbox complaint, someone else did with a few hundred miles on it, you might be within that selection of parts range. In other words, you might have a close engine number, find there is something going on with your/their bike. Seems the dealer could duplicate the shifting immediately, so who knows? Last place is to mention it here. Better you have a written work order noting your complaint. You did pay for a warranty within that price of the bike, so use it.

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the other dudes bike is usa, mine is europe, so id imagine they are far apart build wise, we will see what dealer says ,
im just here for the doughnuts, seems like someone here has a magic needle, trying to sew all these threads together

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"The OP and I have a discussion. YOu come in discussing other parts"...you mean...like bent axles in a caliper thread? ,

"Well, that says you are perfect"...no,it says...I've never installed an axle incorrectly.I say what I mean....unlike some...Maybe you could just TRY and read what's posted without your personal interpretation of everything mucking up the works...eh?You say it's "common"...this axle install flub.I say...it's NOT common...and I've NEVER seen or heard of someone doing this in 7 years of reading about zx14 maintenence work.It may be common in YOUR world...it aint in mine.

If you keep talkin outta yer ass...talkin shit...Cody's gonna get real jealous..he's been trying SO HARD to get ya to just close yer pie hole.

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"The OP and I have a discussion. YOu come in discussing other parts"...you mean...like bent axles in a caliper thread?

No problem I chat some with motero making comment? We are still discussing his bike. Not all this ...

... I've never installed an axle incorrectly.

I need one of those, "well boo fucking who" thrown at you. It is back to you, not the OP that dissed you talking about yourself again, not HIS PROBLEM. That sort of send it home to your ego being left at the door?

I say what I mean....unlike some...Maybe you could just TRY and read what's posted without your personal interpretation of everything mucking up the works...eh?

Excuse me? Little bro, midie tell you that I took what you said and applied it to the thread. For example, I love dis, but the OP found a part and it was not bent. It was a completely different part. So I took what you said, unlike some you say, is maybe I TRIED your read as to what you posted. I picked up no personal bent axle as you say, personal. I think the OP picked up the part you didn't see? I think that was it. Again, you are missing the point. It is not my bike, now, how personal is this part to you? You keep bringing up... How about dis? How about you look at your last post, see if you helped the OP with his shifting, or you do not want to face him? Yo go off on some rant, my last post was to give the OP a head's up on his shift complaint. You come here to a thread and complain about I don't know? What is it this time?

You say it's "common"...this axle install flub.

Yes, when you go to work and find bikes left off that do not run, made an attempt, sure, I get plenty of those. Even with more parts to take off, yeah, I may have had a comeback in those days, but not many. And some not even my fault. Sure wish we had you back then. YOu must have been a master mechanic way back and I was raw and learning dishithe hard way like Cody. Beats me what the fuck you were doing? I don't wanna know. Thanks but no thanks, Mr. Can't make a mistake is me installing my axe sell. GAS'd = Go an Sell Dis someplace else if you are selling dis to me, fella.

I say...it's NOT common...and I've NEVER seen or heard of someone doing this in 7 years of reading about zx14 maintenence work.It may be common in YOUR world...it aint in mine.

I know... I tired to explain it as you explain things your way.

If you keep talkin outta yer ass...talkin shit...Cody's gonna get real jealous..he's been trying SO HARD to get ya to just close yer pie hole.

LOL I gots me a daily!

* Last updated by: Hub on 6/6/2012 @ 12:52 PM *

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guys WTF is going on the mcshop reinatalled it, and he actually bent the new cotter pin in, everything is going well the chain is 1 1/2 loose there is no chain noise, he and i tested it, everything is good again, maybe someday we can cruise.

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It's just "US" Chuck...we do this with each other...I'm not angry with Hub...as much as he's tried(IMO)to rake me over the coals....and screw with my comments...I'm saying right here....and I mean this...HUB has got a HUGE amount of actual knowledge and expertise.And I mean that with respect.He's got a lifetime of working with bikes and all....he knows his shit.And he's done a lot of 'experimental' stuff with his 14's.He knows what he's talking about.He just doesn't like Joe-A entering into HIS pit.It's cool....I'm gonna keep posting things that I think are helpful....maybe others don't see it...that's okay too.SOMEONE might actually have the same experience YOU just had...and find out...it was actually caused by....who knows?I don't.Just putting some 'other' views into the mix.No harm..no foul.You got your bike fixed....I'm glad for ya and glad ya didn't get hurt with it doing that .

Hub will always be jealous of Joe-A....he forgot he was one one time.

"everything is good again, maybe someday we can cruise"...you mean...Hub and us?Geez man..I want to ride...not babysit.The idea of railing for 10 miles or so,and having to pull over and WAIT for his dumb azz just don't sound like much fun .

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/6/2012 @ 1:57 PM *

allrighty then, as long as we can be at least social, its all good, i appreciate all you guys and gals comments, i dont really service my bikes i bring them in, so i am not that knowledgeable so i appreciate all the comments.

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I know I am gonna sound like an ass, but WTF. Do you not look at your bike before getting on it? If it was a newly purchased, used bike even more reason you should have gone over the easy areas at least. Seriously, I was waiting for a punchline. I am not saying you have to go over every damn nut and bolt, but that had to be obvious. The caliper would have been sitting at a strange angle if not caught on the flange for it.

Glad you didn't get hurt, and probably going to be an expensive lesson. A lesson we survive is always a cheap one.