Hi all, I was hoping that someone could give me an intelligent answer as why I should change my stock Exhaust?
I love my 14, I honestly believe it is the best bike I have ever owned. I've been riding bikes since I was 15 years old, I'm now 45 so I consider myself to have reasonable experience, having said that I'm the first to admit that the ZX14 has got more power than I've got skill. I like to ride hard and fast but I know my limitations and always try to stay within them.

All my mates keep asking "when am I'm going to change my exhaust?"
I always respond with the question "why?"
To which they usually say "To make it go quicker" or "To make it sound better"

Basically in short, I love the way my baby performs and I like the quiet exhaust, I don't like drawing too much attention to myself. Although I do like the look of a lot of the aftermarket pipes out there, but is looks alone enough justification for the $$$

So come on guys, give me your opinion, why should I??????

P.S. this picture is not me, I've got more respect for my rubber I just thought it was a good pic of a stock cannon.

* Last updated by: Brenny on 4/18/2011 @ 4:18 AM *

I don't think you should. The 14's stock exhaust is actually very nice compared to other bikes and if you like it keep it and tell your friends to shove it, you're savin your money for hookers instead!

I've said it before & I'll say it again. I like the way you think Edge!

you're savin your money for hookers instead!

Rofl, that could be fun.

So come on guys, give me your opinion, why should

Weight weight weight, Goes on from there.

To which they usually say "To make it go quicker" or "To make it sound better"

Answer given.

and I like the quiet exhaust,

Yosh are Quiet. A member has a set of yosh pipes for trade here in for sale section. Make him a offer. Just a thought.

Yosh are Quiet. A member has a set of yosh pipes for trade here in for sale section. Make him a offer. Just a thought.

...but if you like quiet, prolly best to hear rthe pipe before you buy. I have heard a Yoshi on a GSXr that was not quiet compared to stock so if that is the standard, might be hard to beat.

..but there is no way to get around the weight loss of going with any full system and even if you don't need the sccelleration bemefirts of more hp and lower weight, most of us appreciate the improved handling. It is a dramatic change, IMO --handling and power.

I know many C14 (Concours 14) owners who have spent big bucks to graft a ZX14 oem exhaust onto their Connies.

That tells you a lot about how good the stock system is!

yeah, there's nothing wrong with stock. I had every intention of leaving mine stock. I just have an irresistible urge to make things "mine". When you see my new paint you'll see what I mean. :)

I changed mine for 2 reasons. 1. Weight savings, with the muzzy CF I saved almost 20 pounds between the stock mufflers and stock mid pipes. 2. Most of my riding is 2 up and the stock exhaust held alot of heat, on a long ride day that heat would transfer to my wifes feet.

An extra plus is they sound great too.

HEY BRENNY IT'S PURELY "PERSONAL MATE, HMMMMMM the day I got my 04blackbird a mates said when ya getting pipes, that was about March 09 I was encenced @ the comment as I never spent a cent before in my life on any as i thought then a waste of money for my bikes,that following Christmas aftering nagging from other mates when ya getting new exhaust blah blah, so for Christmas the family bought Slip-ons lights etc, that day Goody came around and we fitted the lot, strangely for me I was impressed, the next day we went for a Ride I was stoked the way it changed the look and sounded unreal mate before I didn't know and wasn't interested at all! I was hooked & converted in a flash,On the first run Goody said their orsam mate but you need to get it tuned shes running really rich! they smelt the unburnt fuel and I was advised to put a PC111 on and get her dynoed which I didIT's hard to explain the money side of it from my(sounds stupid) muture aged bias beforehand brenny but as you know a bit about me now I've found a hole new obsession with my ZX1400 and got with the MOF a hell of a lot, Mate IMO their worth every cent! I would have loved to bought my exhaust in Hindsight as the cans themself cost $999 now armed with the knowledge from here I could of got them a lot cheaper then my Kwacka dealer! all in all mate I've also got to know my bike better than I could of ever imagined & from your tip off I've just bought that cat-less header for my bike mate !!!! for that thanks mate When it gets here from Victoria I'll be stripping her down again as you may see it is really addictive in a great way !! now my home is finished it has revived my personal love that I had for my cars up-till ten years ago I never let anyone else service them LOL my way to beat the MOF now is to save my weekly $80 so now I buy without harassment from Nadene (MOF LOL) Ten months ago before my stack all she had was the leo-vince S/O,s,Venturer rack and tank protector LOL so from then you can see yeh I'm

* Last updated by: bean07 on 4/18/2011 @ 10:46 AM *

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSoundRacer#p/a/u/1/1RZwwYXNzgM

This is the hot setup, the cat's meow, the too cool to hang switch choose is choose your weapon. Comes with ((((Pops on Lift)))) just like the big boys IS that not titsoaking up some electricks?

When I gutted the one pipe, I lost the grunt. Lost the jump. Tell your friends to tune you out of the program.

* Last updated by: Hub on 4/18/2011 @ 12:51 PM *

that's funny Hub. I remember hearing someone talking about the new electric vehicles and when they come out they plan on having speakers on the outside so people can play what ever engine sound they want it to make, for safety too so people can hear you coming. Just imagine all the ridiculous noise.

You can sound like the USS Enterprise!

I personally like louder pipes...mostly because I like the cagers knowing where I am.

stock = Big,Ugly & heavy lol my whole system header to both cans weighs less than 1/2 of 1 stock can lol

When I changed the exhaust on my ZX 14 a couple of months ago, it was the first bike I had ever done that to. I have had eleven bikes. I did it to reduce weight and improve appearance, I did not like the way the OEM looked. I did not want a loud exhaust so I chose the Two Brothers Racing full exhaust with the PX-1 sound suppressor that reduces the loudness to an acceptable level.

.but if you like quiet, prolly best to hear rthe pipe before you buy. I have heard a Yoshi on a GSXr that was not quiet compared to stock

Local bike nights the yosh = Quiet compared to most all others I've heard on the 14. Goes up from there. Apples to Apples. Not sure about GSXR.

I like the cagers knowing where I am.

2nd that. Blip of the throttle lets them know you are there.

The RKTuned are quiet with the supplied silencers!

Thanks everyone, lots of good feedback there. I might be converted yet.

Weight, looks, sound, performance....can anybody think of anything else?

Yeh them three plus them bloody CAGERS LOL

I personally like louder pipes...mostly because I like the cagers knowing where I am.

Why? So they know where to aim? That's a BS reason IMO. Most people in cars where I live have a chip on their shoulder for motorcycles. Especially loud ones that sound like they're breaking the law! I've had plenty of cagers see me and still change lanes into me. -Ripped a guys side mirror off his car WITH MY PINKY while I held on to the handle bars, WITH A PASSENGER, as he changed lanes into me and forced me into the curb. He never did ask me if I was ok with the blood gushing from between my finners. He was more worried about missing his appointment. Jackass! And he had his windows down and three other people in the car pointing at us. False sense of security those pipes are my friend. Sorry to be a downer.

...where's that South Park episode when you need it? lol

* Last updated by: Edgecrusher on 4/19/2011 @ 6:37 AM *

The big selling point for me was getting rid of those cats in the mufflers,, you get rid of a shitload of heat, and I mean shitload..

Brenny,

I get a kick out of the dyno tuners that have the time to dial in a crisp one. Thing is, it takes so much tuning to know what and who keeps pointing the way. Give credit due if that is the source. Didn't [Brock] bring up a stock air cleaner bangs the bucks you OEM up we go dirty?

Say, if you could db the noise out of the wankiss bangers with the popsaylot, we match the hot OEM'ears is the same-same you go up against Mother tuneup. Heat makes HP. I've got some bottom end out the apex. You just don't see it happens clean and quick. Ya gotta backup on it, privateer... Duck dive... Like Dis.

I do not miss a lick tagging line. You are going to make that bike slow in the grunt scale. She'll more carry you upstairs. And there you go. It's going to be yummy no doubt. Butt, ass inn plumber cleavage, you come out of hole; tell 6th in class you be kissing his ass at the cash window get in line, young'inn.

Keep spending bank on travel expenses; you ain't ready. Not much is needed to make a gruntcycle or a topsickill. ROOK, has that one thread all in cap lock. He's like; how you first feel that drug set in. Better than any drug in a pipe or needle [a thread].

Kills you quick you mix the wrong entry. I love the smell of melting butter. Sea that gap at the rail? Sheer man tank that gap is for that germ man trash. If we MEATat-Tat-At that apex? Cheeze GRADE YEar Azz wit day Grass You Grow! Well, maybe fur till eyes her you were not looking where you were going; you ain't ready rear end her!

KeePit Coming. WaxSongWaxSoft, I am going to sinGit "Cum GATE Some"! Meat WOT's left someone is going to cash out. That bike just cleans carsays I missed one apex'd line, be it that MooStank and insult it right up to that truck bump-her was play wither and still setup the apex entry. Or say the Wax'Ears! That is how amazing the grunt is; no trick speed cutting. Just plain old speed up [a] single throttle plate. You are on a dart, a jumper, a wheel spinner, a loftear you are in tears trying to find more.

Cheeze, could I use a fix right now. Melted cheeze wizz over the seat and squeeze one out.

Dis OL' Fart, dis ol bike [eye-4-got] she wontoe start,
Dats WOT Die Said.

Wit a kick-bang-SHE sang another one of those IS Pops!
Eyes aHAve some Porn IS Pop is Pop!

Corn Kneesaid, I wish you were dead!
Sorry, Fred, I'm HA fry yEAR AZZ IS 2!

WOT?
Witoe Wizz Bang, Fizz bang I sea Year Finger's UP YEAR ASS!

You telling me I no can SEE now?
Die Did Die Say DAT?

Use heyou cockissuckershit die took the bait [reaDING] DIS down to here.
Now you gotta wait & wait & Weight, Fatso!

* Last updated by: Hub on 4/19/2011 @ 1:47 PM *

Someone wrote:

personally like louder pipes...mostly because I like the cagers knowing where I am

MSF and the California Highway Patrol have both done studies on this. They say it has no bearing on the safety records of motorcyclists whatsoever. Use Google, find it for yourself.

The cage driver that hits you will hit you loud pipes or not. S/he can't hear you anyway with the air going or the radio blasting until you are so close the hitting part is already done.

Blipping the throttle at a light is too late, they are already around you. Truck coming up behind you won't hear your blipping until he is stopped behind you or has run over you. If you want to lessen the risk from a vehicle coming up behind you at a stop/light (a significant percentage of motorcyle fatalities) get a progressive decay flashing brakelight or something. Visual cues are very effective.

Drivers who have run over bikes at stops/lights say "I looked and didn't see them there". Throw up some obnoxious flashing red lights and they will notice. Blip your throttle and they will run you down because they don't see you.

Besides, blipping your throttle is a squid thing. Whats wrong, won't it idle?

Someone wrote:

... studies on this... say it has no bearing on the safety records of motorcyclists whatsoever...
I bet they lost how many good patrol officers with a headlight on blinking and not sneak up on an intersection come gun'inn for you.

Visual cues are very effective. I have yet to change a bulb or fix a wire looking in a rear view mirror I need a blown flasher mash her is the starter button and an OUT!

Drivers who have run over bikes at stops/lights say "I looked and didn't see them there." But I saw you coming you cock sucking liar! You froze plane and simple, you took the door down shaving or reading a mapiss on the phone, and now on the brakes coming straight at me. I am cocked at an angle looking in mirror is my OUT? Always! OK, most times.

Throw up some obnoxious flashing red lights and they will notice. I throw up I rely on anything butt my eyes and reflex.

Besides, blipping your throttle is a squid thing. Whats wrong, won't it idle? I would not warm that bike at a standstill, nor will I let it hour down at a light it'sill tight.

* Last updated by: Hub on 4/19/2011 @ 2:10 PM *