My 14 arrived!!!

All looks good, got some newbish questions though (prolly)

1. There's no Choke, is there?

2. What kind of alarm does my bike have? I know it doesnt have a alarm for when someone touches it, but there is a red light flashing?

3. One of the FRONT lights (the plastics) is kinda sticking out, and the other one isnt, can i just remove to front body and fix it or??

4. How many miles do most of you ride before u need to fill up the tank? And if it flashes "TANK EMPTY" or something, u have no clue how much more u can ride?

5. Lovely looking bike! Feels more sporty than the Thundercat. SEXY sound!! even with stock exhausts.

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1: it fuel injected so no there is no choke
2: 14s in the states dont come with any security system as far as i know...at least mine didnt
3: i guess my first question would be why is it sticking out further? is it loose? is it that noticable?
4: i think i remember reading in the manual that when fuel light is flashing you have just a little over a 1/2 gal left dont have my manual right here so i cant say that for sure. i only get roughly 130-140 miles b4 light flashes but then again i dont ride it nice...lol

5: ditch the stock cans a set of m4's would look good with that color

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1. The bike has automatic fast idle and leaner a/f until engine warms up. It's the same effect as a choke and it usually takes about two minutes to warm up and go to normal idle which should be about 1100 rpm.

2. What kind of alarm does my bike have? I know it doesnt have a alarm for when someone touches it, but there is a red light flashing?

If the red light is to the left of your multifunction display screen, that is a warning there is something wrong with digital fuel injection. There would also be a warning message displayed in writing on the multifunction meter. If the red light is on the right, that is a low oil pressure warning. If the light is on the face of the speedo, that is just your launch/shift light. It can be set for dif rpm, to flash or say lit, or you can shut it off.

3. I've never tested how far i can go with the low fuel indicator flashing. I think it's about 40 miles from what I recall of other posts. The low fuel display will come on your multifucntion meter. You won't be able to miss it.

* Last updated by: Rook on 1/31/2010 @ 9:06 PM *

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Well the red flashing isn't a error, im pretty sure - Since its really a FLASH .... FLASH .... FLASH like its a security thing. Also, it stops when hte bike is ON, and only flashes when the bike is off.

The 14's so have some kind of security alarms though, i heard this one is a ingition security thingy tho, and theres also one when u touch it it goes off- had that once in a shop with a zx14

M4 cans? lemme check them out :D

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Matsuke, glad you got your bike hope it gives you a good run for your money, you'll love it! .I get about 15.5 klms to the liter , at about 270klms you need to look for fuel, the LOW flashing fuel bowser will come on, if you push it it will eat those fuel numbers, reserve is about 3 - 4 liters so about 320klms your starting to run on vapour depends how you ride it. Not to sure what the issue is with the plastics if you take a photo and put in ask Hub section or we may be able to help you here . Ride safe Matsuke

Thx all :) Will post it on the HUB page if needed!

One more question btw, there's a uhm... not sure how to call it : http://www.heframeubelstoffeerderij.nl/fotomap_webshop/images_fournituren/klitteband/klitteband.01.jpg

That's on the tank, i think it was to hold the GPS on there or something like that, i cant just pull it off, since it stuck on there pretty well.

Do i have to do this with a hairdryer or something alike???

thx

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yes blowdryer then get you a mild glue remover dont know what you have there but here i use a product called GOO Gone

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Just finished. I used lamp oil and a blow dryer. Worked Great =)))

BTW, is it normal u have to give some gas when starting up the bike? When i dont he gives some error after a while, ignition error or something alike.

Thx

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^^Try the injector cleaner gas treatment. Run the engine a while to use up the untreaeted gas in the fuel system and let the treated gas sit in there a while. I'm not sure about the code. That's a question for Hub. Perhaps the bike is able to sense that gas is not getting through the injectors without applying the throttle and that is why it is giving you the code.

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injector cleaner ..... Explain Rook! lol

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best ive used is Lucas injector cleaner i run it through at every oil change

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Your RED FLASHING LIGHT is telling you your IMMOBILIZER is ON.That's GOOD!Low fuel-you have 8 tenths of a gallon left.Better find fuel SOON!!!!!!IF you are getting a flashing red light AFTER attempting to start-something is wrong.(if it starts then stops,or just won't stay running).Look at your screen-it will display an error message.Once it does that,hold BOTH RESET and MODE buttons in for two seconds-it will give you your service code number.Look in your manual(service manual,not owner's manual)under DFI service codes-it will tell you what's basically going on.Get some Techron or Gumout MAXIMUM(yellow bottle).Follow the instructions on dosage-fill yer tank.Run that tank out(to the low fuel anyway),then REPEAT the treatment again.Should solve any fuel injection stating problems if it's only the injectors that are gummed up.IF it won't idle after firing-could be as simple as adjusting your idle position.But it should immediately cycle into the "cold start" idle-at startup-and then drop down to the idle set point within a few minutes.If it's not going through the "cold start" function-either she's already warmed up,or,if not,something is not right-idle position could be too low.If you close the throttle(manually) while she's going through the cold start-it will kill the engine,so don't try to close the throttle at that time.Should NOT have to do ANYTHING with the throttle at all when starting your Ninja-it will adjust all by itself.Just let it run through it's little cycle.

* Last updated by: blue07 on 2/1/2010 @ 4:51 PM *

injector cleaner ..... Explain Rook! lol

It's a chemical that comes in a small can or bottle. You mix it with the gas that's in your tank according to directions on the lable. The lable will probably say to mix 30 ml cleaner/1 liter of gas or something like that.

Injector cleaner dissolves residue from old gas which can easily obstruct the tiny holes in your injectors and collect in other parts of the fuel system. I have only used A product called Sea Foam but I have never actually had a problem with blocked injectors. Scott is recommending Lucas injector cleaner. I'd try Lucas since it seems as though it is specifically made for cleaning injectors. I've heard Lucas recommended many times. I'm sure they must have a similar product in The Netherlands. Your gas tank holds 22 L or 5.8 US galloons. Fill 'er up and pour the proper amount of cleaner in the gas tank. It will tell you on the bottle. Let the cleaner sit a while to disperse throughout your gas tank and then start the bike up and run it a few minutes. The treated gas will now be everywhere in your fuel system doing its magic of dissolving any crud that could be in there.

It's no big deal. The bike was probably just stored with untreated gas and the octane precipitated out of it and clogged something up a little.

Your RED FLASHING LIGHT is telling you your IMMOBILIZER is ON.That's GOOD!Low fuel-you have 8 tenths of a gallon left

All I get is an alternating "LOW FUEL" message/gas pump icon on the multifunction display. I guess my red flasher is burnt out. I have never seen it and I ran the tank out of gas not long ago. There are 3 lights to the left of the multifunction display. The one you see flashing is the top one, right Matsuke?

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FROM THE "IS THIS NORMAL THREAD"

Can someone explain me about the Injector Cleaning?? *clueless*

If the problem is fuel flow obstruction, injector cleaner should fix it. If it is really cold, there could be some ice formed in a line (especially if you are real low on gas) and that should melt once the bike gets good and warmed up. Ice formation is one reason to store the bike with fuel stabilizer.

Btw, my fuel is very low, could that also have to do with it..??

Yes, see above.

Get some gas in there Matsuke. Sounds like you better do that with a gas can-- you might not make it to the station with what you have in there. Treat the gas with some Lucas or similar injector cleaner. It can't hurt anything. If it doesn't work, you know there is some other problem.

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The RED LIGHT has NOTHING to do with low fuel-there is no flashing light for low fuel.He's got an immobilizer on there-that's his flashing light-UNLESS-the RED FLASHING LIGHT is on the RIGHT side dash.That's an FI error message.

* Last updated by: blue07 on 2/2/2010 @ 12:15 AM *

Nope, its on the right, so its the immobilizer!

I'll get some fuel injection stuff, im not sure what its called here, but ill figure it out!

I can just ride with the Injection Cleaner stuff right?

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inj cleaner and a full tank of quality high oct gas if were me

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Yup. Mix the injector cleaner as directed on the bottle with your gas. Ride the bike and it will clean out the fuel system as it flows through. It also cleans just sitting. Even if you don't ride it will do its thing as long as the treated gas has been run into the system.

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Found this from Forte, this is a pretty good brand - i also use the wax for my chain from them.

http://www.forte-nwe.com/NL/Forte+producten/Brandstof/Fuel+System+Cleaner.html

Fuel System Cleaner

or

http://www.forte-nwe.com/NL/Forte+producten/Brandstof/Gas+Treatment.html

Gas Treatment

The Fuel System Cleaner one should be fine then, right??

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I'm guessing now the Euro models display a red flashing light on the right where the oil lamp is?Kinda hard to understand what Mat's saying here.I know with my model-the right hand red flashing light is the DFI error message warning.(also doubles as an oil lamp).

* Last updated by: blue07 on 2/2/2010 @ 1:32 PM *

Mine is a G2 and the top light on the left is called the warning light. It goes on if there is trouble with the Dig Fuel Inj along with a flashing message on the multi func. The right top light is the oil pressure light (it has an oil can icon) and it only goes on to indicate low oil pressure or when the key is on with engine not running.

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Well I am wrong apparently about the red warning indicator light.I thought I saw it flashing on the RIGHT side in the oil lamp window(and then staying solid when I stopped cranking[which now makes sense-there was not enough oil pressure}-I guess in actuality-the motor was not running so to speak-it was cranking then dying in my case-which would probably show an oil pressure situation instead of a DFI error(although that DFI error WAS occuring at the same time.Maybe I did get a red light on the left side-but from what I remember-it was solid red on the right when it wouldn't start(and I was opening the throttle wide open).Just kinda coincidence then I guess that the oil light lit up solid,and a DFI error appeared simultaneously(although I still don't remember seeing a red light on the LEFT side for the DFI error).Well-I learned something here tonight!Thanks all!I didn't put two and two together at that time I see now.I the manual again tonight after reading your response ROOK-Ya-that warning light IS on the left side dash!Good Job!

* Last updated by: blue07 on 2/2/2010 @ 10:33 PM *

It's freezing alot here too, might be also a factor it doesnt start in 1 go without giving a whack on the throttle.

i bought some stuff called STP, Its to clean the injection for Benzine engines. for cars and motorcycles i guess.

Gonna put the tank full saturday, and put that stuff with it, see what happens :P

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STP is a very common product here in the US. Even so, I don't hear it recommended as often as some other injector cleaners.

If you can ride, I would do that so that the engine gets as hot as possible. It is not real easy to get the engine hot in temps under 40 F. If you have some ice formed, just letting the engine idle might not be enough to get everything warmed up good. I find if my bike idles to 4,5 bars, it still cools off quicker than if I rode it for 45 minutes to 3 bars max temp.

Most of all, be careful. The bike's a new experience so don't ride too long if you feel like you're mentally fatigued even a little bit. Also, if this treatment doesn't completely fix it, you can always try another brand and do a second treatment. Wish I had more input but I have never had this problem. I'm sure it will get solved.

I don't like to let the tank sit empty too long. Rust can form inside the tank easier and there is a plastic blade on the fuel pump that should be immersed in gas all the time. If your bike starts, I'm sure the fuel pump is covered by gas so no worries about the blade. As far as a half empty tank, we all have that unless we fill up every single day. The thing is that if rust is going to form, it's much easier to remove if it is higher in the tank than if it goes all the way to the bottom.

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Two treatments=good.One treatment=maybe?