"You crack a chip a few times?"...maybe.IDK....it's only been a year.Other than some stupid nightmares once in a while...I think me brain is healing up okay...

Right you are about that. That takes an engineering head with lots of training and theory. The end game for me is to figure out if this chart is correct? What do you think? I'll sit at that map cells and 3-D the chart and aim for the 12-13 AFRrange

What do I think ??? I think one of us is going to end up in the Funny Farm counting Marbles LMAO.

Your quest for a AFR of 12-13 should be a easy quest as up top that's where she runs now. 12.75 on the dyno 13.1 at 190mph with Ram Air in play. Bottom end gas mileage maps of 16-17 good when off the power and want to tour, so my thinking is your done. Break out the marbles. We are going down with the ship.

Come on, Romes, check my reality. Did I make perfect sense as how the tre causes the limp? I wrote just about every basic step as to how the tre limps via the ECU reading the machine language of the binary. I had an instinct about the tre vs. the binary was the whole secret.

Now, you don't think I can swing a 3-D map vs. not too many octal numbers being far from each other? Once you have the basics down, it's endless, no? Kill two birds, etc.?

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Come on, Romes, check my reality. Did I make perfect sense as how the tre causes the limp? I wrote just about every basic step as to how the tre limps via the ECU reading the machine language of the binary. I had an instinct about the tre vs. the binary was the whole secret.
Now, you don't think I can swing a 3-D map vs. not too many octal numbers being far from each other? Once you have the basics down, it's endless, no? Kill two birds, etc.?

Hub I would never ever bet against you that's for sure. That being said if they gave you a full open book on the very first ECU ever invented, to learn all there is to learn You would be hundred years old before you finished your study. "Ain't Nobody Got Time For Dat".

Me I'm gonna have me a cold pop

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Hub I would never ever bet against you that's for sure.

I don't know about that, but say I'm somewhat determined when something gets shoved up my rear end. I become my own proctologist, know the symptom is elixiritus. I don my Ivaneyes magnifiers on, sea a whole ocean of bowel movements, move the tweezers into position an POP.... Out comes the tapworm in 1's and 0's. Disease wise you see a stream of 1's or 0's alone? .... Huston we have a problem.

I've already hacked other sensors. Some bonnieville deal, bazzaz's deal, Ivan's deal, two brothers deal, all those do the exact same thing is send in a stream of 1's for being on or still connected. The diagnose still says, 'signal out of useable range.'

Technically, I cracked the elixirs machine speak. Philosophically speaking, I've got nothing to do but wait for godot. Withat said, I might crack more of this cell number being x to y'd, with so many combos that equal out to binary anyway. If it was simple enough to understand how the tre hacked the ECU, then the messenger in the play ought to sink right in too when that info shows up. Where to find that info is another story, but right now, I've got nothing but time to figure out the next part is coding.

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... if they gave you a full open book on the very first ECU ever invented, to learn all there is to learn You would be hundred years old before you finished your study.

Well, after all these years I am now closing the chapter on, Ivan and His Ping. All this time I was so blind it was right in front of my face no matter the info I gathered. Like a magnet it connected the dots. So theory wise I have to continue my search for the software side of it. What basics I found in the hardware, I'd like to find in the same sort of easy basics of the software I found in the hardware.

Same as you, Romes... Hobby. Something to diagnose. I'm about 50 years away from holding my own against tech line at powcomdr.

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This one is for you, Romes. See if this makes sense. The arrows are wrong, the touch to a neg may also be wrong. My weakest subject is electrics [math/logic] so however you see it, wattever you get out of it, that theory sure works when I mess with it. I could be wrong, but the theory has numbers that do some strange stuff that EEE's = Electricity Evens Everything.

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I don't know about that, but say I'm somewhat determined when something gets shoved up my rear end. I become my own proctologist, know the symptom is elixiritus. I don my Ivaneyes magnifiers on, sea a whole ocean of bowel movements, move the tweezers into position an POP.... Out comes the tapworm in 1's and 0's. Disease wise you see a stream of 1's or 0's alone? .... Huston we have a problem.

Lol, Hubster, who is shoving what up your rear end ? Exit Door Only Champ. Fight if you have to. Outcomes tapeworms sounds YUK-E

Same as you, Romes... Hobby. Something to diagnose. I'm about 50 years away from holding my own against tech line at powcomdr.

50 Years is a long time. As a hobby you sure picked one that will never give you End Game. To Much is kept from us now. I burn chips and have no idea what I'm burning in. So when trouble shooting, if the problem comes back after a chip flash I just replace the board. If that does not work, new controller. The Big Brain people keeping us stupid. Copyrights bla bla bla.

So in short make the piece you are working on do what it's supposed to do and move on. If Not, The Wood Panel Station Wagon coming to pick you up. From here it's off to the Funny Farm. Crazies in there, run away.

Am curious, what are you working on? Does it make more power? Do I want one?

Wood panel it is. Romes, it's all on the net how the computer operates...

Say we touch the gps wire in a tre style. Toilet flush to heart beat flush in concept and the abstract walks it in an absolute mimic to mimic a way, it works perfect like a wooden cart type of take it away EEE (electricity evens even hubshit)

PCV = I have an optional 6 gear map program in the pcv. So hook up the gearposenr g/r wire to the bl/w pc box. We are reading a signal as if we plugged into the same wall socket at the bottom plug and wired in to your same watts at the lamp bulb. We will just follow the bulb's plasma resistor and read those numbers your owner sets the trans to or the rheostat dimmer switch setting of the room. No line interference, right? And no signal interference, correct.

Map1+1- of the 7 port holes for the kill is at the toe- and +jam wire setting. I jam+ to -map1. Now, I am one foot pull up to connect toe- to +map1. And did we not send the map's RAM to ground? Yes. And when foot is released or the voltage collapses off the foot unit's, did the map not return to a single reading map as if no kill installed? Yes. If we toggled [same as the kill] close the +/- together, we are reading map 2 toggled on. Map 1 [defaults] or is toggled off. You are now on the map2 you plotted in the software and sent to the pc's map2 option. Lots of think in the opposites when shit happens. Lots of walks of the dump into the next hard part, but who cares, the 3TCT's are locked in as are the 3wV combo.

Same as saying; I have zero ports filled, just a toggle to map1 or I toggle the other map, makes no difference in a flip-flop of a map [in a single chip], the RAM is moving on this map you toggled. So you lost no input, it now maths off that cell it X to Y'd to. All that math needed to set the AFR to this new lean/rich setting is beyond me. I have my base3concepts so the rest is more research and do I go there? I know the walk is missing on that paragraph of a step. Maybe you can walk that to see it? I picked it up quick on a simple 3 way move. Anyway...

Since my map1 ports are filled for a race map, I toggle to the track on the leaner economy map to get there. I toggle my race map for the track. I install my kill into map2 so my RAM goes off [the 5v] line momentarily, the shift is done, map2 never missed a beat if WOT sends in the same number at the TPS demand signal. I pull the kill out of the accessory jack2map or the port holes map2 kill style, I'm still at my 3 absolutes at the ports in the back or the plugs at the bottom. Here I am with 2 wiring up options to the track and 2 options home in the economy map settings, both doing the exact same locked at 3 basic moves 2 ways = Auto or You.

Sequentially, I want/need that GPS wire for my other option of gear to when I want to shift up to 11,000 rpm from 10,000 rpm so I now have to sustain rev to gear and send 'save' x to y so I am now timed to the gears to rpm to map cell. So the tre with pc is a no-no just by the tre at the flippedigital. I would think now that I would have to place everything in the opposite move on down the re-gating of the locked flip and what it caused to the others? I have no clue.

Where is that in my pin ping? I can only ground one pin in the physical move, technically. That or turn the key off is 5v. I'm grounding out a map off the power-train. So if I look at the pc and how it flips the gps off for so many options like 2 right off the bat, the GPS is out of the loop for the pc. That means in play or not in play if both are used. The locked tre flip; messes with the pcv in the gears AND ignition maps on its own is more interference even without the use of the gps wire to the pc gear/ign software.

So if the machine is stuck at the pins of I need an analog in or I gate to save the engine, I am not in both map swaps, right? I am low-mid-mid-hi values of 4 inputs in. I've got 8 sigs 01N23456. My forget me not 0. Why? Every processor starts at 0 = 8 (0000-0000).

No matter how I move the abstract I am fucking lucky the fuck finding every stitch I am making around Ivan's rear end in the closing there of is a tre found in Broke Land. I mentally have broken down the Ivan my mentor, my diagnostic master... You guys know you have royalty at this website, right? That Ivan is something else. A hidden gem, no ads, just word of mouth. Top tuning out of the mouths of the customers. Pick a bike. Come on. I'm being very objective here. You don't see it? Not a bad meal you head for that Ivan dinning on the keystrokes LOL... Smoothing out that needle taper you old smelly hands you!

Map2-2+ is the opposite map of 1 as in how the wiring is done selecting either map in the pcv software. So when I now use the pcv's 6 gear maps, I have to plot a map to that gear map in trim set. So my wiring now is to read the base-map and dump the threshold maps via the autotune are the timed trim settings or I dump them [the current saved to ground] that ground automatically. So, sea level you save that map. It will change when you gain in altitude and now that is a saved trim at this altitude, meaning, this complex math will fill the cell per that altitude/temp/pressure/etc... eventually.

I assume the pc has a self timing threshold to save that autotune map. Trigger is the timer of how long to save the current RAM being sent. 5v flow is the constant. The threshold is waiting for you to save it or here comes auto-trigger to dump watt the threshold holds for so long. That, or so long the better tune of the day/week/it happens faster than you think.

This told me that if the pc is closing down one map on a flip [to ground], the other map is reading in the flop to 5v and then off again. You have to connect the dots about how the tre does a flip/flop and cancels out the sequential maps and flops to the one single default map reader that is the locked 6th. It is one number over and over; were are the other 6 signals make 7 is N and ground is 8 in binary = tre kills sequential.

WATT does backup do shorting a wire to ground = one pulse number is the same over and over?... Checkmate, Ivan! Low power grunt gained, limp set to a single RAM # and defaults out of FULL POWER!

How can I conclude this? I would have to think
Code = Safe-mode set single map read all if a single input # repeats over and over is a lost analog [many] signals.
Full Power = Sequential maps in play. This is when the gears are sending in analog [many} gear numbers selected and this sends an analog signal as all OK. Single sent is digital and that's the flip to flop to backup = When a sensor falls out of analog and into digital as if unplugged and the number is 0000000 for every crank cycle = BACKUP is now set. The analog is defaulted to ground is [now] the [digital] signal. And this is replaced in the math as a failed sensor sending in a digital # of 00000000 is ground in computer speak, meaning -off.

Analog IN = FULL
Digital IN = LIMP

Checkmate to Matechecked = Flip the flop flopping the stopping down of the full is a gate after gate after 10 gates is step after step in the parts is parts and I have no clue how or who? I just know on/off = 2 is basic binary.
4 is pins in is input
8 is 4pin out to ouput
01N23456 is 8 in sensor speak.
10 is 0 to 9 and 10 times thru the Truth Tables to Ground or stays Hot is 5. Don't get me started on 5's.

I'd love to see that other number you bring in that I am handcuffed to are these numbers, right? I'm still waiting for someone to bring in that working number if they do not think 14.7/760mmHg/ATMO/1 atm/101 are the basic bottom line, pull Ivan's trousers down and start sewing his ass up 8 ways is follow the chip's wiring azz it opens and closes. So smooth, you can't tell a fart from a shit it's so blended and smoooooth.

* Last updated by: Hub on 3/25/2015 @ 8:58 AM *

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How can I conclude this? I would have to think
Code = Safe-mode set single map read all if a single input # repeats over and over is a lost analog [many] signals.
Full Power = Sequential maps in play. This is when the gears are sending in analog [many} gear numbers selected and this sends an analog signal as all OK. Single sent is digital and that's the flip to flop to backup = When a sensor falls out of analog and into digital as if unplugged and the number is 0000000 for every crank cycle = BACKUP is now set. The analog is defaulted to ground is [now] the [digital] signal. And this is replaced in the math as a failed sensor sending in a digital # of 00000000 is ground in computer speak, meaning -off.
Analog IN = FULL
Digital IN = LIMP

Hub I'm reading and trying to keep up. In my line of work I end up spending a fair amount of time working with (as well as attempting to repair) SPPT's, (Smart Proximity Position Transducers) These have many different functions but basically in short they count billions of pinholes, some in colored glass etc.

As it relates, the SPPT's send the input, built in timers make a count. In my line of work I decide when limp mode comes in. Tolerance settings Burned into the chip. Pick a number in most cases plus or minus 10%. Pots on the boards lets you play here. Gain.

When Count in Time is Not within spec, a New specific command is introduced. LIMP. Thats when I get the phone call. What the commands are specifically I am blind to. Without knowing exactly I am powerless to burn in changes. This leaves me blind with no avenue but Replace.

In this ECU we can see almost Nothing with current software. That being said I ask what is in limp mode exactly ? That safety map we do not change, we only blind the input by making a copy of the Digital so there can be no Limp in the Analog. Would have been a much better approach to adjust the tolerance setting in the tone wheels input. Adjust timers to match high sensitivity settings. But How ?

Ahhhh, now the wood panel wagon coming for me. Can't touch it, can't see it, can't feel it, equals Can't prove it. Science is lost. Leaves us Powerless to make change.

Hub Kawi is never going to give up her secrets. And if you do and of course you have figured out some of them, I must ask what are you going to do with the knowledge??????????????? Your Locked Out, kawi Knowledge book is closed, make a run for it. Except what is. Tricking inputs has been our only game. Only now can we change some pages inside. Some, less than 10% safe bet.

Hub Here is one for you to scratch the ole noodle with.(dog with a bone)

How is it Kawi knows I have replaced my sprockets with different tooth count ?

What timer to count of speed input gives us that stutter ?

Why is the moving through the gear maps is causing this stutter ?

In my Testing last year, there is some proof that a gear lock eliminates the stutter. Ok that means the moving through the gear maps, tied to RPM in the TPS.

Stutter is gone with 6TH Gear Lock, TRE008 to the rescue.

I currently am running 6th gear lock in the SB6. I have gone up one tooth down one tooth from stock I can not make bike stutter any longer. Time to buy more sprockets. Testing not cheap. I want my beloved 17/45 back.

With all your testing I need you to prove this as fact. Hub you got this. Am I wrong to assume the poor mans fix is the only way ?

Show me the way. Results all that matter.

* Last updated by: Romans on 3/25/2015 @ 11:35 AM *

Would have been a much better approach to adjust the tolerance setting in the tone wheels input. Adjust timers to match high sensitivity settings. But How ?

You guys were at this longer than me and here I am only messing in the mechanical part. And that's when I said forget the pin ping. Of course it's the software to run on who's speedial you want. I think enough cartwheels looking for the parts in play says where to look.

Romes, I am going to do exactly nothing to it, with it, just want to watch it gate to ground. I have 4 moves and the rest is read between the lines is how it got me here. Fun only because it is on the bike. If it was not on the bike, I could care less how the computer works.

So in a way, I pulled the trousers down on the computer chip and that was the timer's basic move(s). His filling meat and two side orders.

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You guys were at this longer than me and here I am only messing in the mechanical part.

Hub I only go for proven results in the science. Current Turbo Flashes have led to to some great places that will help All You Guys. Very Unique. This I love as I can prove it without a doubt. Others can test it and also prove it. There for proof can not be denied.

With Watt your into I personally am of no help whatsoever. Sorry Hub Can't even be a sideline coach. But I will continue to read with great interest in case you find something I can use. Go get em.

pull Ivan's trousers down and start sewing his ass up 8 ways is follow the chip's wiring azz it opens and closes. So smooth, you can't tell a fart from a shit it's so blended and smoooooth.

Oh ya, Dis was a good one lol