Move Close
Welcome to zx14ninjaform.com!

You are not logged in.
New Topic Reply
Next Page

Page: 1

Previous Page

Thread: stuck fairing bolt

Created on: 05/10/11 03:06 AM

Replies: 12

adamsgeneral


adamsgeneral's Gravatar

Location: Albemarle, NC

Joined: 09/18/10

Posts: 81

stuck fairing bolt
05/10/11 3:06 AM

i was attempting to remove a fairing bolt on the right hand side of the bike, and the bolt will not budge. it moves slightly out, feels "rough" to rotate out, gets progressively harder, then stops turning. any ideas???????



2010 SE ZX14.

Link | Top | Bottom

Edgecrusher


Edgecrusher's Gravatar

Joined: 02/22/11

Posts: 1272

RE: stuck fairing bolt
05/10/11 5:50 AM

Sounds like you have a bad well nut which is the rubber thingy the screws go into. Get it out any way you can. Sometimes you have to keep tension/pressure on the wellnut or it will just spin behind the part. Plan on buying a new replacement before you put it back together. The nut is prolly just spinning inside the rubber. Hate them!



RIP 08 Special ED ZX-14
2004 Electra-Glide Classic Peace Officer Black, Rineheart true-duals, HID with Hella headlight bucket, Goodridge SS brake lines, saving for DJ PowerVision FI controller and K&N large cap. kit.
2004 Suzuki Katana 750 (wife's but doesn't ride anymore) (fo sale), Hindle exhaust, K&N air, Dark metallic blue w/ blue led accent lighting.
1983 Suzuki GS750ES under construction(perpetually)

Link | Top | Bottom

Shogun1


Shogun1's Gravatar

Joined: 11/23/10

Posts: 292

RE: stuck fairing bolt
05/10/11 9:44 AM

Just when I think I've learned & gained on HUB-language, I am then completely blown away again ...lol

Link | Top | Bottom

Edgecrusher


Edgecrusher's Gravatar

Joined: 02/22/11

Posts: 1272

RE: stuck fairing bolt
05/10/11 9:49 AM

I think Hub is frustrated lately. I don't remember him being this perverted on the forum. lol



RIP 08 Special ED ZX-14
2004 Electra-Glide Classic Peace Officer Black, Rineheart true-duals, HID with Hella headlight bucket, Goodridge SS brake lines, saving for DJ PowerVision FI controller and K&N large cap. kit.
2004 Suzuki Katana 750 (wife's but doesn't ride anymore) (fo sale), Hindle exhaust, K&N air, Dark metallic blue w/ blue led accent lighting.
1983 Suzuki GS750ES under construction(perpetually)

Link | Top | Bottom

privateer


privateer's Gravatar

Location: [random forest]

Joined: 02/16/09

Posts: 3605

RE: stuck fairing bolt
05/10/11 1:32 PM

Just when I think I've learned & gained on HUB-language, I am then completely blown away again

Like I said elsewhere..... LOL



Living the Gypsy Life

Link | Top | Bottom

privateer


privateer's Gravatar

Location: [random forest]

Joined: 02/16/09

Posts: 3605

RE: stuck fairing bolt
05/10/11 1:35 PM

What exact bolt is it? Which cowl piece? Some of them screw into metal, and I know I had to tap one because it got stripped by a buggered bolt. Many of them are 6mm tap size.

I've also had wellnuts get buggered, but then it just keeps turning because the wellnut is turning in the whole its in. When that happens it sucks unless you can get diagonals on the wellnut to hold it still.



Living the Gypsy Life

Link | Top | Bottom

adamsgeneral


adamsgeneral's Gravatar

Location: Albemarle, NC

Joined: 09/18/10

Posts: 81

RE: stuck fairing bolt
05/10/11 10:50 PM

ok, well the old muscle technique failed miserably. i stripped the bolt head. oh well, guess next stop is drill bit. when i need to get in there. this bolt holds on the side fairing with the "fins" (as i call them) on. stupid is as stupid does.....



2010 SE ZX14.

Link | Top | Bottom

COOTER


COOTER's Gravatar

Location:

South West Florida

Joined: 04/27/11

Posts: 1342

RE: stuck fairing bolt
05/11/11 2:37 AM

Well that sucks good luck!!!!!!



Team panda (ride safe ride sober)

Link | Top | Bottom

Grn14


Grn14's Gravatar

Location: Montana

Joined: 02/25/09

Posts: 15511

RE: stuck fairing bolt
05/11/11 4:02 AM

How bout an "easy out".They seem to work pretty well.Are you talkin about the larger bolts(2) or the small one at the front of the "fin".If and when you get to removing it...you most likely need to angle the bolt a bit so the rubber body will pinch against the hole it's going through,otherwise,she may just continue to turn without coming out.Gotta start turning very slowly so she doesn't just spin.It will come out doing it this way.

It aint stupid.I stripped one or two of the small fairing bolts myself(the allen heads).Soft metal I guess.You HAVE to make sure you're using the correct allen wrench.Some of those allens(wrenches) are not fit exactly to the Japanese allen head.Close...very close,but still not tight enough.They will strip the head out.

I want to clarify this....the factory allen fairing bolts have worked fine for me.I have a few different allen wrenches however.A couple of them fit "almost"...enough to get ya into trouble once she's tightening.(or loosening).The small edges on the wrench sometimes round off a bit.That's when they start giving the bolts fits.You can only file em so many times,and they quit fitting altogether.My stripped ones were aftermarket small fairing bolts.The larger one(s) at the rear of the "fin" there...I almost stripped it out by using a worn allen wrench.Had to go to a star(TORX) to get it to work.So it's like....not exactly okay.But good enough to still use.I'll replace it sometime.I've got several sitting in my parts box.


* Last updated by: blue07 on 5/11/2011 @ 4:14 AM *

Link | Top | Bottom

privateer


privateer's Gravatar

Location: [random forest]

Joined: 02/16/09

Posts: 3605

RE: stuck fairing bolt
05/11/11 4:22 AM

Sounds like he is having trouble with the one that is actually tapped into the frame. He is going to have to get an extractor like an easyout, drill the bolt head per instructions, then use the extractor and hope it turns out. Just use low torgue, low speed settings on a heavy-duty drill, and go slow. Click...click...click...click and hope it comes out.

No way a wellnut would cause that kind of problem, the wellnut would turn before it would let you strip the bolt head usually.

Anyway, like I said, I've had a few cross-thread incidents and had to chase the threads with a tap. The aluminum in the frame is amazingly soft. Hard aluminum or ss bolts bind just normally screwing in, which is why you don't need any locktite at all if you torque to spec. I have learned on the ZX14 to be very gentle and feel the bolt on the first part of its travel, and if it doesn't feel like its threading right, back it out, clean it, and try again.

Extracting one cross-threaded bolt was one too many for me.


* Last updated by: privateer on 5/11/2011 @ 4:23 AM *



Living the Gypsy Life

Link | Top | Bottom

Edgecrusher


Edgecrusher's Gravatar

Joined: 02/22/11

Posts: 1272

RE: stuck fairing bolt
05/11/11 5:14 AM

I hate cross threaded bolts like I hate tree huggin hippies! Teach that screw who's boss!



RIP 08 Special ED ZX-14
2004 Electra-Glide Classic Peace Officer Black, Rineheart true-duals, HID with Hella headlight bucket, Goodridge SS brake lines, saving for DJ PowerVision FI controller and K&N large cap. kit.
2004 Suzuki Katana 750 (wife's but doesn't ride anymore) (fo sale), Hindle exhaust, K&N air, Dark metallic blue w/ blue led accent lighting.
1983 Suzuki GS750ES under construction(perpetually)

Link | Top | Bottom

Grn14


Grn14's Gravatar

Location: Montana

Joined: 02/25/09

Posts: 15511

RE: stuck fairing bolt
05/11/11 2:21 PM

Oh yes....THAT one!Mine's not stripped...YET.That bolt angle in there though...that little deal is sometimes hard to get right.Easy to forget...the bike is off the vertical...yup...trying to put it in "as if" it was horizontal...it will thread wrong.I've got the kind of bolts that have a small but useful taper on the end of em.Much better than using the ones with only threads to the end of the shaft.Yep.Long one for the top,SHORT one for the bottom.

Link | Top | Bottom

ethin14



Location: Qld Australia

Joined: 03/09/09

Posts: 589

RE: stuck fairing bolt
05/11/11 3:56 PM

if you've striped the hex out of the bolt were your Hex key goes and its tight in the thread on the way out, then it most likely past the point of a easyout fix, if it's M6 then by the time you drill out the center its not going to move with a easy out

If you can take as much of the head off as possible to allow for the removal of the fairing, this will leave a little stub of the M6 , lube it up and use a pair of vice grips to work it in and out ,

you may be able to work on the damaged thread at the end , cut it off , file it, grind it, what ever you can then lube and work it outwards.

If not depends on what bolt your talking about as to the next steps

Link | Top | Bottom


Welcome to zx14ninjaform.com!
 
New Topic Reply
Next Page

Page: 1

Previous Page

New Post

Please login to post a response.