OK, here comes more proof about being in fear of a lean condition. What I found out just now was to download to see if both WB2 boxes were serviceable. They match perfect in function since I pushed just about every button figuring out what this thing is?

This is what I would call a, 'sessions box.' There are two sessions you can create with threshold values. For example, you can run a jet change see the meter run in real time, but when you download to read the data, there seems to be a tach that will match your TPS positions, watching your download is my guess. There is also an A/F ratio display just like you see on the bottom of a dynojet dyno run printout.

Now I see why my sponsor/buddy gave me the box full of parts. I have a remote 02 sensor just like a poor-man's 02, only better! Thing has a memory of the run. I can download the run on the screen. Place a PIP video inserted to match the rpm. Watch the session run the A/F ratio line run in real time saved in memory.

So watt I do not have is a map maker like a PC3. I am down to 1 cut box and 2 meter readers. Shit! Now, seat of the pants trying to tune that Tfi cut box with the pots, will be a lot closer dialing in that guy. Now, we can see 'spank-spikes' I throw fuel at it. This is so cool! I program session1; I program the light to come on, tells me I threw too much rich down below. If I program session2 this is where I may tell the light to come on if I run, 'too rich at this higher rpm?' That means I met that threshold to fatten the top end up. I add the second session box and another 02, I can run all 4 sessions in one loop gathering data.

I can expand the data; run equal settings, but this time, swap 02's being in two different locations on the exhaust pipe. There, you find that mismatched number, trying to tune the bike with the Lambda throwing a loop at you is the pun. So yeah, we got us here one or two of dem dare, Dial-A-Lean my meter read. The map archive is in limbo. Tfi settings are all I got. I find the smoothest running ratio, at least I know where she will be sitting A/F ratio wise.

Here is a short heads-up for you. I am both nervous and excited to find out if I am as equal in torque or say, if I will see 102 or 103 torque like most of you have now on your charts. Right now, I am scheduled to run the bike on the dyno sometime this month? Things could change, become busy, and I keep saying, business before me.

I'll hang back till things slow down...

Thanks for the update Hub.

heres some good reading on ivans tre (from Brocks web site

http://www.brockracing.com/lowend.htm

From the archives of the BrockSteer: www.BrockRacing.com/lowend.htm ~"Two Worlds Collide
When the ZX-14 community got wind that their bikes had been neutered by KHI for low end performance, readers immediately went to work to try to solve the problem, and so begins the undoing of the Ivan myth, and finally some resolution to explain exactly what happens and why. The timing couldn’t have been worse for Ivan, as he stepped into the forum of online ZX-14 chat. He had expected the same age-old response to his product; mystified acceptance. He had been down this road before, so as a seasoned veteran of underground marketing*, certainly the ZX-14 would be no different…. but this time things would be different. The ZX-14 is a unique motorcycle and its owners bring a unique and distinct wealth of information to the table."

<<< The Goodole days.

I dedicate my bike's look to Ivan, my mentor.

Tore and Dole? YOu know those two guys, right? Nick name, Dil? Tore runs around naked, doesn't know which end is up and changes direction in the video? Dole out the fucking shit you bring that abstract the fuck'inn WATT? We could have been riding on a vessPee with Marelli electrics. It just happened to be a 14.

Bag of tricks the flying dickwads like the Wallendas is dis some doling out. Tore the poor guy's ass UP he took the bait. You see that HOOK in Dole? When I say, "Dickslapp'INN"... Tits a compliment to Ivan.

Yeah Scott, only a few remember what really happened. Ivan is one. There was chaos going on and I just wanted to talk bike. While he was being chased around like the article said, he got all upset at me being wrapped up with all the politics* and that race of a chase.

Asked him something about his thing and he got all upset I was talking about his thing and wanted to touch it kind of mis-communication now just happened. Well, he got upset more is I got even more upset than he did. I was stopped mid-hubbish, trying to rectify the circus event exploding under the big tent.

That's when he deleted what he said and WATT die said, laughing my fucking ass off. Andare you have Dole and Dil in every cornball video is to remind Ivan, I wasn't talking about his thing. I was talking about his thing!

Why the fuck did you have to bring up old snooze? Don't chew dare delete it like Ivan!

sorry hubster wasnt trying to revive anything just thought for members like myself (not tre savy) could read this article and maybe have an understanding of what the tre is and what it does. what i found most interesting is how Brocks dont do any half ass testing. No wonder his pipes are so $$$ has to pay the electric bill for all the dyno runs he pulls lmao

Scott, that tre is a constant revival meeting. I was in the goof all the way, ass usual.

So I'm tearing up this other website, get a warning from someone saying I'm 'too over the top' for his place. Anyway, they too are lake jumpers and they run the pc or flash the ECU's. So I'm going to assume that missing 02 will still run up in elevation, but without me testing to make sure, I took a big hubbishit speak crap of a load of long posts over there.

And as I walk out the same old steps, I hit upon more basics, a 'why didn't I see this all along,' puzzle, but now that you can understand the moves, I'm looking at the mother of them all. I'm just a slow learner is all. And as I randomly open to a page or on the website in the research, you add a step to the fundamental move.

This 2hp loss to the Brock's tre try>> goes limp? The mother all along was the DTT. TT are hi/lo signals. TT means on-off. TT means Read RAM-Delete Ram. TT means +V 0v. TT means North-South directions. TT means flip-flop. TT means 4 pins of Input side on your basic very first piece of hardware.

Out of 8 pins on that back box filled with micro resistors, one way diodes, etc., it still needs 12v at one pin, a ground on the other side of 8 is a ground. Oh shit I just stopped at a step. I'll think this out on the 4 pin side without looking, but coming up with the whack so it makes sense to me. So pin+ is out and the other pin goes to someplace else. 2 pins left and that is TT wired to a sensor coming in with data input in analog.

That says I am thinking this chip moves 3-ways and if I hand flat and thumb to thumb, flop the wrist, I can make 3 movements no problem. I'll call the 4th pin as who is in watt setting I go swap pins or not use a pin. And there you go. Not that the 14 is pinned to this or that timing, no, I'm speaking I have 4 pins figured out on one side.

I now take that pin not used I am with a +pin from the key fob to ECU. I discard those and the 2 left become flip and flop. Flip is tre8 and flop is tre6 or whatever those pluck off a sensor's wires, the other is the dash gear number.
The mix it up part is this visual I am handcuffed to as I explain wire on and wire off is the Mother of DTT.

Flip and flop are slapping each other like you don't know who is slapping who at this point. So the ping back and forth is like dropping a pebble into the pond. Those waves are like snowflakes and have their own reverbandshit. So analog is being sent in flip and flopping pebbles in for idle and rocks in for WOThink. That's TT at those legs or pins leading to the sensor.

Each sensor has their own pin and 4 are taken up so I would assume the wiring is over my head still, who travels on the same chip is getting too deep. Back to TT as they are wired to those legs. Next comes; connector not connected, wire out of connector, short to ground, signal out of range. Everything points to wire-wire-wire off a pin basically. That's 3 handcuffed variables are only those 3 moves and it codes. That's where the visual is the pond is so calm, looks like only one signal being sent. So WATT is the difference you place an ohm in between signals and what signal did that still produce? Still a glass smooth pond signal = Single input. So wire out or wire with resistor connected remains digital.

This turns something inside the ECU to an electrical default. The sensor (pick one) was slapping TT and discharging like a bandit. The one T is a low signal and the other leg or pin of the other T is a high signal. Same as saying I pull wire or ohm the wire back in is the same as saying I take off the one gps wire or the other gps wire I stop flip from flopping and stop flop from flipping RAM to ground. Either way I stopped DTT from moving.

The default is formula complex, but say 5v is constant voltage. I was waiting for a hi/low kind of trigger and refill to where rpm wise making linear voltage as it spins faster, the DTT flushing at a determined speed via the hard parts. So without seeing a drop in voltage-Dis and a gain-Tresh to discharge or that cycling of hi/lo, you pulled the plug on a pin is hi or lo pin(s) and it still defaults to 2/3rds the preset voltage. It's like saying in the shop manual, I'm going to preset the gps @ 6. It says in the manual, I'm going to set the lost 02 signal @ 760mmHg is for you to see that kind of abstract, but the fucking thing is cutting out at 2/3rds its voltage all the fucking time I'm laughing my ass off so hard at that other site and telling them I was as I described the hack to them and showed them the handfuckingcuffing.

Too funny!

OK, anyone figure this out yet? How close am I?

Damn, 6 years ago. I look at that and gotta give it to BG for sticking it out.