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Created on: 08/03/13 07:29 PM

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Ballin' on a budget
08/03/13 7:29 PM

Today's lesson in Ballin' on a Budget is brought to you by Nasty.

I figured what the hell lets see what I can do with these buttfugging ugly quiet as a mouse stock cannons. Here are the results. It is not perfect by any means, it's more or less just a prototype for fun only using scrap I had lying around. Ballin' on a Budget!

The first thing I did was chop 8 inches off the stocker, not even half length.
BTW I do not recommend cutting off any more than 8 inches!

The result of that gave me somewhat of a cool, but crude, Mad Max look. Not bad, but not pretty either. I road around for a couple days that way and it was loud as fuck! Too loud and boarder lined with sounding shitty too. Butt dyno told me I lost some ponies in the midrange.(I know butt dyno don't mean shit) Basically I might as well have cut off the whole muffler and ran myself a straight pipe is what I was accomplishing.

Something needed to be done besides beautifying the end. I needed to build a plate at the end to baffle some of the sound and give it some more back pressure. So I started dreaming up some ideas until I had something I thought would work using a cardboard mockup and some scrap muffler pipe I had lying around.

With my cardboard cut out and my muffler pipe cut and expanded to fit the already existing main exhaust tube I found some scrap plate steel(1/4in) to use for my end plate, and cut it out with the plasma torch.

After much grinding to smooth edges out and to get everybody fitted together I welded some tabs to the plate in strategic locations... I fitted my muffler pipes in place and mounted the back plate over them and used self tapping screws to hold it all in place(everybody was sealed with copper sillycone later on after everything was modified and fitted)

Next was to modify the the original end caps to make them fit. First I had to slightly enlarge the main hole to make the 2in exhaust pipe fit through after that I needed to cut a notch to fit around one of my strategically placed brackets. It's not perfect but gets the job done none the less.

Job well done if I say so myself. Looks just like stock but shorter and lighter!

Before

After


The volume is a lot louder than stock. I would say when it was first cut and ran open its volume level would rank up there with some of the loudest slipons. Now after my modifications I would have to say the level is somewhere between a yoshi with a baffle and one without the baffle. As for sound I'd have to say it sounds just like stock but much louder. Kinda like some old fucking Volkswagen at idle. She does sound nice and healthy at higher rpm under load. Now my butt dyno(I know butt dyno don't mean shit) tells me there is no obvious loss/gain in power over the original stock cans, but the midrange does feel noticeably stronger than when it was just cut and open. One fact I can pass on is while cruising this afternoon, at normal highway cruising speeds(not speeding retardedly) I noticed a 3-5 mpg gain in economy.

Ballin' on a Budget!!!!!!!!!


* Last updated by: nasty on 8/3/2013 @ 10:04 PM *



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/03/13 9:35 PM

Nasty my man! Kudos! That not only looks wayyyy better than stock, it was creative and balsy. This is the sort of little project that forums like this were created for. To get people involved in their machine and actually doing. Putting hands on, wrenching, changing oil, etc. I guarantee that this very cool little project will have in some intangible way tied you to your machine a little stronger. In a way that changing oil in a cage never could. I like it Nasty. I love it. If I was still running my stockers, you would have emboldened me to follow suit. I considered doing something to 'fix' my stock cans many a time sitting my garage. But I didn't have ur balls Nasty. Awesome job man! Your step by step write up and clear instructions would have made it easy to follow suit!



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/03/13 9:37 PM

Backpressure is an outmoded term. The important things are exhaust length, inside diameter and changes in diameter. At each change in diameter, and at the very end, a negative pressure wave runs back to the exhaust valve seat at the speed of sound. If these events are timed right, they help extract the exhaust pulse that happens as the valve opens. Any change in length, or the locations of diameter changes changes the timing of this extraction event and thusly the rpm at which the exhaust most positively effects performance. Shorter exhausts usually benefit high-rpm performance and reduce low rpm performance.

Regardless of performance, your work definitely improved on the looks of the stock exhausts. Nice work.


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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/03/13 10:00 PM

Did I say they look wayyy better than stock??? :))) holy crap those cans make the stock ones look huge!



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/03/13 10:05 PM

Hahaha! No shit! I've been sitting here making edits and flipping back and forth between the two like holy shit them stockers are HUGE!!!



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/03/13 10:15 PM

I remember before buying the machine and after, searching for stock cannon mods for the R series but was unable to find anything. All I had to go on was curvzilla's recent post on some dude cutting 8inches off his stockers. So I took it one step further with additional mods and figured since there is no info on the subject out there I'd share it with y'all.



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/04/13 2:05 PM

Well fuck yeah! I still have my stock cans. Great way to show my son how to zombie apocalypse those stockers!



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/04/13 4:16 PM

Haha, seeing how big those original can are compared to your shortened ones reminded me of this:

Nice job & how to on the process.



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/07/13 11:22 AM

Thanks guys! This has been a fun project. I've been playing around with the transfer tubes plugging and restricting flow to see what happens.

Here's a shitty quick vid of it all painted up and running.


* Last updated by: nasty on 8/7/2013 @ 11:25 AM *



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/08/13 7:05 PM

Hey that is AWESOME and very ingenuitive. They look great. I am a budget biker myself and always appreciate a cool mod done on the cheap! I actually like the looks of that better than my yoshi slip-ons.


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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/08/13 8:00 PM

Dude I'm a total nut about bobbers and the real choppers where they chop and toss the useless shit! If it don't make it go faster or stop quicker it's outta here!


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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/09/13 4:28 AM

Could these be the source of your vibration I read about Nasty?



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/09/13 5:43 AM

No they are not the source of my vibration. I just chopped my pipes last week and the vibration deal started back in may or June. The vibration has gone away some that or I got used yo it and don't notice it anymore.



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/09/13 5:43 AM

No they are not the source of my vibration. I just chopped my pipes last week and the vibration deal started back in may or June. The vibration has gone away some that or I got used yo it and don't notice it anymore.



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
08/09/13 7:24 AM

no worries mate. I thought this mod was done a while ago.
have you fitted different bar ends at all?



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
09/13/13 1:25 PM

Are you still running this setup? Does it sound good when you get on it? I was thinking of doing a similar hack-job to my cannons.

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RE: Ballin' on a budget
09/14/13 9:49 AM

Yes I am still running this same setup. They sound nice and deep! If I were to compare the sound and volume to an aftermarket exhaust I would say it is somewhat similar to the two brothers exhaust.



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
09/14/13 10:35 AM

You really did well Nasty...Kawasaki ought to take a look at your pics and follow suit.Very nicely done.

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RE: Ballin' on a budget
09/15/13 12:56 PM

Well I just bought a 2 bros ehxaust, lol! So I guess I'll know what it sounds like very soon :)

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RE: Ballin' on a budget
03/25/14 5:37 PM

Nasty's ballin' on a budget update... Epic failure.... But now I'm running a full titanium Brocks CT Meg!!!
Click Here For The Video Sound Clip!!!


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RE: Ballin' on a budget
03/25/14 7:21 PM



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
03/25/14 8:38 PM

Ahhh...who needs a budget anyways. Wow that is just awesome looking and the sound is second to none other. Sounds like a moto gp bike. It's not so bad spending the cash when you get the results your looking for. I'd say you blew the budget for a damn good reason.



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
03/25/14 8:52 PM

GREAT choice. Really trying to save money on this stuff ends up costing you bevcause you will want to upgrade to something of high quality some day. Might as well go in all the way immediately and enjoy all the mods you do for the life of the bike.

Sounds graet and I'm sure the bike feels a lot better too. Amazing how they rev quicker with a full system. ..and accelerate, too!



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
03/26/14 7:32 PM

What rearsets are those? They look nice!



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RE: Ballin' on a budget
04/05/14 1:21 PM

The final two pieces of the puzzle. Purple haze Titanium sprocket nuts and a black 42t supersprox sprocket.



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