For years all i heard from hub is how great his bike runs in default or dealer mode. Well hub your full of it .Because i've tried running a zx14 without gauges this weekend and its slow .. In fact on 5lbs of boost it only has 2 mph over my stocker .. Great compression and perfect A/F but it has no power . I'LL be putting gauges on it next time out

* Last updated by: Badzx14r on 5/9/2010 @ 6:28 AM *

For years all i heard from hub is how great his bike runs in default or dealer mode

Yep, for years...

How come everyone kept on raving about that tre? Go limp? OK, fine buy me. I'll just change my name to, PAzYearazzUP = Pay UP!

So to keep the myth going, I just kept my side going, we show up, you think you should follow my lead like eye van eyes your ride? Ain't my bike is ain't my R&Do I make myself clear?

"U slow [the] fuk kares"

PCH MBz, reading where the tail lights were made, and still one code short of stock; WOT a limp. And did you catch watt subtle suggestion I keep on mentioning? "No one listens to Turtle." Someone is going to tell me their end on a dyno? My end says different I had a wide band back then?

Zero codes on the dash. I stay away from limps. Fast ignition that cuts you off at the knees? So much for timing retard. Rich set you still pop on the hard lift dumping that fuel in. A clean running machine I rather run in the lean. Best gas mileage. Best O/A performance.

Low torque wheel spinning rich, add a fuel cutter? There you go.

if you think i'm lieing ..go dyno your junk .

* Last updated by: Badzx14r on 5/10/2010 @ 4:42 PM *

"The ECU takes these following measures to save the engine..." If you were to save the engine from damage, would you not slow it down? Detune it?

WATT do you think the hubbish was? Lying to you? Someone tells me the air screw is not in the mix all the way up the rpm band? I need a dyno or a vacuum gauge?

Somebody tells me the bike will lean out I pull flies. I was never lied to. I knew different. Hubbish lied again to you?

If the bike's abstract cannot explain it. If the hubbish cannot explain it, who you gonna call? Last guy that built your first turbo and did he have a dyno?

You were handed back junk and you, you insulted a perfectly good running stock bike. You rode it in there, right? I just pour gas in mine. Soft mode hard mode a mode is a limp mode. My junk is not in a box in some corner now a spares bin.

I tweak one tiny pot, the A/F ratio changes everything. You gonna setup some map, set some accel, not remap?; then, reaccel, remap, reaccel you read the A/F ratio on the dyno and ignore it? Or, do you work the map with every accel move, your map is off now.

Dyno should have told you that with your junk. My junk is not even close to being tuned. You see that needle pulse? ShitsNot even ready for a map, you throw that junk at me from someone's dyno.

Here we go again, you tell me I need a dyno, we read the same sniffer?

"The ECU takes these following measures to save the engine..." If you were to save the engine from damage, would you not slow it down? Detune it?

thats zackly what it does .. and its slow as a 600 . and instead of blabbling hubbish . go prove your theory. and get that junk moving

Hubbishad you going. You had to read into both theories. That was all I was booshitballbusting. Listening to no one but that code page. Followed each code to it's abstract.

Found the ignition just moves quicker like the sub stays up with the linear and say it, moves fast on the code set. Short throw, you are done!

Someone lines up some abstract that says, 'timing retard eliminator.' No one could explain this to me or they could not understand what OTTO was telling me. There was no way you change some timing where you eliminate that base advance. So, the timing light said different. It said timing stays at the same degree. It just gets there sooner. YOu feel the grunt of the subs open. Throws the torque downstairs. 'We placed the top torque in default mode. Go see a dealer about that code.'

WATT are you telling me, 1bad? I loaded up so many codes at once, how do you think I could stay up with that car? I unloaded all but one I could not reach once the chase was on. And I could feel that GPS junk my HP all up from stock. Lost that linear top [rpm band].

I'll make junk HP I keep those fatter injectors in. Not the correct jetting it was Gen2'd for. That much I know. I get a map, I start from scratch. Run my own X/Y numbers. Every time out, I am changing that Tfi pot. That is like swapping maps on the net. I'm not there yet with my junk.

Here ya go, 1bad, big state. http://www.delawareonline.com/blogs/uploaded_images/IMG_1899-723202.JPG

And the race face said to keep you propagandize to that TRE and any other code that blinks at you is take your money I'm stock.

<< You fell for it and cup your box is the, "cash box baby."

nothing but more hubbish . ivan told us your a phoney uhh nutcases

You still do not get it. I do not show up with a map [from] on line we have no air. I am not up at that tree, waiting for a site map set with their day's pressure on the other equator end. I'm on the other side, we changed states waiting for you. It's so wet here, WOT chew got for me, the same map?

You show up with that Ivan map is dick your slap you don't get it.

* Last updated by: Hub on 5/11/2010 @ 9:50 AM *

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrcDEHTGaNo

Hey 1Bad, 2BAD has got some special sauce for you. Go tell your buddy Ivan, I got his right buy the nuts. Case is closed.

WTF?

WTF?

zackly .. hub's full of it

and default mode suxs

* Last updated by: Badzx14r on 5/17/2010 @ 9:59 AM *

Hey lighten up Badx. Hub may not be right all the time. But he is right alot of the time. Like all advice on here and elsewhere in life the smart thing is to remember .....caveat emptor - buyer beware. My dad used to say :The less you pay for advice the less you can expect if it is wrong.

lighten up .. i haven't got krump yet ..

let me know when hub's right about something.. please

Ivan and his hack is all it was.
Brock and his lean was all it was a cruise mode you could live in.
wrongway and his way off looking at an air hole in a carb body is a throttle body with the same air screw.
JohnnyCheeze is, I gotta bring up the laundry list of people that were right with their way the world works with all their equipment and experience? At least the cheezeman was warning not to use the tre being how many times did it take to pull the clutch basket to solder up the 5th gear fallacy?

Only write way was toe step up to the FSM for some answers that you cannot dispute. Then, if you don't believe the book, you better begin to rewrite the factory shop manuals for the Big4 and the rest. It is all a mistake. It must be a misprint. I better not quote out of the book or I'll get it wrong, the bike will still not start buy the book. I better wait for you to come along 10 years later? Tell me I'm wrong?

Ok, to be fair, after reading Hub posts for a very long time, I really cannot see much content or value to them. LOL.

Entertaining.... yes, to a point. But just look above....

I know how a ZX14 operates, I've spent enough hours buried in the tech manual with it up on front and rear stands to finally understand. At the wiring harness level, too.

There is NO way a stock or even tre-ed ZX14 can compare to one with a good aftermarket exhaust and PC-III / IV with a good map. Brocks has posted plenty of dyno and dragstrip evidence.

Now if hub can post actual dyno ticket(s) for his, and not just more gobbly-gook, we'd know some facts about his assertions.

Until then, its all just gobbly-gook that isn't even worth reading for the most part.

Not to change the topic of this thread, but Hub, I've seen in some of your posts that you don't think the TRE is a good thing. I'm curious why you think that?

Until then, its all just gobbly-gook that isn't even worth reading for the most part

x2 ..i can tell you for a FACT that without gauges it retards timing and kills power . . a/f is fine . anybody that don't believe just unplug the gauges and go for a ride ..

worr,

I just sent this post in to your typical racing website. Seems there is another device that sets something off on the bike. Others are making comment how the device works. I on the other hand, like to school these guys just like here. Teach Bad the hard way he shows up here plays wit me. I know enough to be dangerous on the track or setup some tune-up. I may not win, but you will get 98% I put some kind of effort into it. See, I proved enough to myself. Now I watch the struggle like Russell on Survivor. Pick you off, one at a time. Only in my mind.

No shit? Richen up?

3 fun due men till you are blue in the face. I am going to cream you motherfuckers, you do not get this fuel injection correct and as simple ass me being one.

No Start = Fuel - Spark - Compression << So fucking basick it makes one sick to repeat but repeat yeast must tear'd gas is sending in stink bombs you better gate the fuckout of day way; do not get wit day programmables that do no want to be reprogrammed, Hell LOW?

FI Code Set = Short to ground - Connector not connected - Wire out of connector.

D'uh, eye am looking straightatit, fall flat on my face, I need that shit to lose a signal?
D'uh, I forgot to look in any generic FSM, since 1999, watthe fuck am I setting off codes and dead signals to the analog is shut down the system, I freewheel race?

I freewheel in the street, here comes a left hand turner if only I had power? Assume, assume, assume, WATTar the odds, you being splat teared with the bugs on the windshield!

Your bike- Your life - Your sad ass edge ass if you opened the book, foundoubt anyone would listen is a LIMP = "We see you R [for resistor] fucking around with the signals, so fuckque, we are going to set a code and limp your HP is lose the trophy run." 'See your local dealer, bla, bla, HA!' Chief FigurefuckingDucksitting duck is more like it is; buzz bomb that shit up.

:crackup: :Pop: :toilet the fuck flush:

YOUR STILL FULL OF SHIT HUB .. UNPLUG the gauges and dyno your bike ..then replug GAUGES an repeat dyno run .. you will see ..

Hey, did you see, 'Truck-U' where they go through all that tranny rebuild and the key to that clutch pack was to line up all those plates in the whole trans [one way] and they mentioned jack shit about it. That means, they know shit from shine-o-la, I have to look at those guys give that crap-info-mercial is mercy me did Joe Blow get hosed. I had some guy complain; I rebuilt his 3 speed with fresh rubber and fresh plates in the right direction. Some old bike trick had all 3 gears. It was so plush going in, he couldn't feel 3rd. I go out with him, hammer the throttle on his truck, show him all his gears.

I am steps ahead of you. You get to that point, I'm steps ahead again. Get it, 1bad? Start catching up already. How many years now? Bike trick, car trick, trick or treat?

Fill my bag with cheese paper ~ Unchewedove course unless you already ate some post toast teas a long time ago it seems. Yeah, and even the long readers could not point that same info out to you way back when is useless info is too lazy to read between the lines. All this time I'm telling you to set the bike up like mine so we can do some buzziness.

Toning, not tuning. 'Ol-Style-Ivan' is new style PAzYear after year is UP! < How do you think this name came about? Stay hacked is pass your ass up you still don't get it tell me to dyno my bike.