I just recieved my PCV in the mail and now I'm thinking I might have enough to get the autotune also. Off the DynoJ website I can only find two or three part numbers yet some parts suppliers list theirs as being model spoecific. I'm shopping for the cheapest price so can I just get any AT-200 or do I need a zx14 specific AT-200?

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Any AT-200... they're not model specific. Best price I found was on ebay.

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Plan your setup as much as you can in advance. The more shtuff you want to hook up with the PC, the more you better make sure you have the right modual(s) (SHtuff).

Sure seems like there are a number of modules that do the same thing yet they are not compatible with other DynoJet components. My PC5 & AT-200 would not work with my LCD-100 (that works with Wideband 2, I am told) I had to wait almost 2 years to get a firmware update for the LCD to work with my setup. When I got the firmware update online, it effectively transformed my LCD-100 into a LCD-200.

Crush, ask for advice of owners but IMHO, it is essential that you talk to a DJ Tech/Rep to know for sure what you should get for your bike. I wouldn't suggest going on the word of suppliers. The DJ products have become so numerous that it takes someone with quite a thorough background to give the most reliable advice. If I were doing this all over, I'd prolly just buy from DJ. They wouldn't sell you things that don't work togethter. Cost won't be much dif from most suppliers. You might come across some great eBay deals. IDK?

I have PCV/AT-200/LCD-200 and all are functioning perfectly. The AT does not hook directly to the bikes wiring like the PCV does. AT has 1 wire to the o2 sensor (the fat wire with blue tape), 1 short wire (skinny wire with blue tape) to the PCV and 2 long neg/pos wire (inside protective black tubing coiled under ECU / my install) for power .

wire to o2 sensor

* Last updated by: Rook on 3/7/2011 @ 1:24 PM *

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$259.99 + shipping from Dynojet.

$230 shipped on Ebay.

I paid $225 shipped, but that seller is out of them now.

Rook, you make a good point... but why not speak with a DJ Tech, and then find the best price?

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Do you guys that use Autotune take the time to hook a laptop up every so often and apply the results ?

I spent about an hour on the phone with Mr. Brock when I was deciding to get a piggy, as I thought the PC5 would be better. He pointed out that, for one thing, the resonance in the headers and pipes is going to give the relatively low cost O2 sensors a fit, and cause false readings.

And he told me I'd enjoy whichever piggy I got more if I didn't bother with Autotune.

I'm just a set-it-and-forget it guy, but am curious how you use your Autotune ability.

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I'm trying to keep it simple with this bike but sometimes I can't help myself. I have very expensive tastes and drive my wifey crazy. I have already changed my mind about 5 times about whether or not to get an exhaust right now.

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Do you guys that use Autotune take the time to hook a laptop up every so often and apply the results ?

I spent about an hour on the phone with Mr. Brock when I was deciding to get a piggy, as I thought the PC5 would be better. He pointed out that, for one thing, the resonance in the headers and pipes is going to give the relatively low cost O2 sensors a fit, and cause false readings.

And he told me I'd enjoy whichever piggy I got more if I didn't bother with Autotune.

I'm just a set-it-and-forget it guy, but am curious how you use your Autotune ability.

The longer you wait, the better the suggested trims. When I first put an autotune on my '06, I carried a small netbook with me and would accept the trims often. It was a waste of time. The suggested trims were all over the place, resulting in the bike running worse. I assume this was from inaccurate samples. If I waited, say 1k miles or more, before accepting the trims then I felt they did improve the fuel mapping.

Now on my '06, I had an Alien Head exhaust. I was told, by someone in the know, that a good rule of thumb when installing an o2 sensor is to place it, at minimum, a distance of twice the pipe diameter from any seams in the exhaust. The short collector and mid pipes on the AH made this impossible. I've got a CT single for my '08 14. The pre-welded bung on the midpipe is placed in a much better location. Hopefully the readings will be more accurate. I'm tempted to call DJ and ask if one of the guages for the Wideband 2 will work with the autotune... It would be nice to be able to keep an eye on the AFR, but I don't want to purchase a LCD... and riding with a computer hooked up is downright dangerous.

* Last updated by: DogoZX on 3/2/2011 @ 1:37 PM *

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Rook, you make a good point... but why not speak with a DJ Tech, and then find the best price?

Yeah, no reason that wouldn't work but if you work with DJ exclusively, I suppose you just about eliminate any possible confusion that might occur between parties. I just had a bad experience with that LCD. Glad it finally was resolved.

The longer you wait, the better the suggested trims.

My experience seems to bare that out. I don't own a laptop so I had to roll the bike up to the window between the bushes and stretch a USB out the window from my old Dell from Hell. I was in no hurry to look at trims. The bike gathered info for about a month before I hooked it up. Nice improvement on extreme low end which is exactly what i would have expected. My map was flies in and I am flies out.

* Last updated by: Rook on 3/2/2011 @ 10:41 PM *

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DogoZX:
I have a PC5 and AT-200 already installed on my bike. I would like to have an afr guage. Can I use one of the guages for the WB2 with my current setup?

DJ Tech:
No, the AT-200 does not have the connection for a gauge.

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^^^but you can hook up an LCD and that will show your AFR in real time. Here's just two possible configs for dig display with AFR gauge.

Analogue meter

Bar meter

I also needed to pick up one of these to hook up the LCD that I purchased to my PCV. The LCD I had was made for use with the PCIII only until I did the firmware switch. Check with DJ ---I think the latest LCD comes equipped with this wire. It is a wideband2 cable and it fits the smaller ports of the PCV or AT-200 (can't remember which the LCD hooks into now). As mentioned earlier, prolly best to call DJ tech back and ask exactly what LCD/cable will fit your setup.

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Thanks for the pics and info, Rook... that's what i don't get though... Why will the Autotune send a signal for afr to the LCD or a PC, but not a guage? I don't get it.

DJ says I can purchase a WB2, use it as an autotuner and have a guage.

Rook, when you get a chance, will you check whether your LCD plugged into your PC5 or your AT-200, please? The install instructions from DJ say to connect the LCD to the WB2...lol

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I have the cable for the LCD connected to the PCV. The AT-200 cable goes in one port, the LCD-200 goes in other.

Why will the Autotune send a signal for afr to the LCD or a PC, but not a guage? I don't get it.

I was wondering the same thing about the signal from PCV to LCD I bought back in '09. The answer to that was that the signal was getting sent from the PCV to the LCD but the LCD I had was not equipped to communicate with the PCV. After the firmware update, my LCD transformed into a LCD-200 which is capable of communicating with the PCV.

So---if a gauge follows suit, maybe it just requires to be able to communicate with PCV....You know, The plugs might fit but that doesn't mean they will work (About the exact words the DJ tech told me on the phone).

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Thanks, Rook.

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You got it. Lemme know if you want pics of the AT/PCV/LCD connections under the seat.

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You got it. Lemme know if you want pics of the AT/PCV/LCD connections under the seat

I'm good for now. Been emailing back and forth with a DJ Tech all morning... might be selling my AT-200... after I hook up a gauge and know for sure it won't work.

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If memory serves, before the firmware update on my LCD, I was able to connect the LCD to the AT and get an AFR reading. All other LCD functions were blank

See... gauge not working makes no sense.

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That's the way to do it, IMO.. Just ask DJ.

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That's the way to do it, IMO.. Just ask DJ

Tech is basically tellin' me to get a WB2... with a cable (36” CAN to CAN cable – pn:76950117 - $16.00, 18” CAN to CAN cable – pn:76950143 - $20.00, or 6” CAN to CAN cable – 76950145 - $10.00) and a terminator plug (pn:76423025 AT $6) the WB2 will do everything the AT-200 does and then some... including running an AFR gauge.

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If memory serves, before the firmware update on my LCD, I was able to connect the LCD to the AT and get an AFR reading. All other LCD functions were blank

Now that I think about it, Dogo, I believe the DJ guy did a firmware change to enable the LCD-100 to receive an AFR signal from the AT-200.

Then, when the firmware became available, another DJ tech installed a second update to the LCD via interactive session and the LCD worked with the PCV.

The LCD-100 that I got was supposed to work with the Wideband 2 module. I did not have the WB2, I had AT-200. So no worky....until the firmware for LCD-200 was changed into my LCD.

See... gauge not working makes no sense.

The problem could be that the gauge does not have the ability to interpret/communicate with PCV or AT-200. The plugs have to fit the ports but that does mean the brains of the various units all are compatible.

Even if the gauge is made by DJ and the plug fits the ports, that doesn't mean they will work with your setup. That was prob for the first 18 months of owning my LCD.

ASk DJ. Just follow their advice blindly. Only way to go, IMO.

If you are going to sell the AT-200, and buy a WB2, you might as well just get the LCD-----unless you don't care for the looks of that thing on your bike. I'm not sure I will run it al the time but it comes on and off easy enough.

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If you are going to sell the AT-200, and buy a WB2, you might as well just get the LCD-----unless you don't care for the looks of that thing on your bike. I'm not sure I will run it al the time but it comes on and off easy enough.

Think I'm gonna do that, but also purchase a gauge. Don't want to have the LCD hooked up all the time, but it would be nice sometimes... I want a gauge to keep tabs on AFR all of the time.

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A PC???

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See... gauge not working makes no sense.

will work if you install 2 02 sensors. I know not what you want but works. Not my bike.

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* Last updated by: Romans on 3/8/2011 @ 5:30 PM *

ow,ow. owwwwwwwwww. new levels of brain hurting.

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ROFL,,,,