I was about to purchase a shorai yesterday then decided to read on it some more and stumbled unto Lithium Moto. Their ZX-14 specific battery weight in at 2 lbs and has 300 A compared to Shorai 3 lbs and 313 A. Lithium moto battery comes also with foam and could tolerate a battery tender if discharged. It also has more copper in the terminal and therefore a higher heat tolerance. Price is $ 185 plus $ 10 shipping.
Should I be the guinea pig?

* Last updated by: dragking on 2/12/2012 @ 3:19 PM *

lol +1 on you jumping first drag

ah dammit, now we will have the battle of the batteries. ...and I just bought a freakin Shorai charger, too.

my Shorai is 1.5 lbs. It's a 14 Ah. like the stocker.

lol +1 on you jumping first drag

ah dammit, now we will have the battle of the batteries. ...and I just bought a freakin Shorai charger, too.
my Shorai is 1.5 lbs. It's a 14 Ah. like the stocker.

3lb Shorai?

Mine is still going strong one year after completely draining then recharging with a Battery Tender, too.

I think it might even be one of the recalled ones.

* Last updated by: DogoZX on 2/12/2012 @ 8:25 PM *

I had 2 of the recalled shorai's once they drained there was no re-charging them

I had 2 of the recalled shorai's once they drained there was no re-charging them

Hmmm... maybe I didn't get a recalled one. I just kinda assumed since I was one of the first to jump... You still remember the recalled one's #'s, Scott?

This the one I see when I enter 06 ZX-14 obviously that one is different from yours Dogo
shorai

This the one I see when I enter 06 ZX-14 obviously that one is different from yours Dogo

Yeah, that one is 21ah... I have the 18ah in my zx14.

The 21ah wasn't even available when I purchased... I didn't even know they made it until now.

The 21ah wasn't even available when I purchased... I didn't even know they made it until now.

18ah is more than enough.

My 14amp was on a maintainer for a couple weeks. I never drained it but the indicator showed that it did take a charge from the maintainer after sitting out in the bike for two months w/o any activity. Seems to be same as ever. As I undrestand it, maintainerv s that do NOT have anti-sulfate mode will work with a Shorai without damaging the battery. The Shorai charger maintains or charges but the real use is that it balances the cells when put in CHARGE mode. lead acid chargers can't do that.

\this hook is sorta good for shite. I think they want tyou to drop it so you need to buy another one from them. I tie mine with a safety tether so it won't fall.

Connectors are fine. I'd prefer something that was better insulated and doesn't have tiny hook snaps that lock together . works as it should though. Looks a little shabby but it does what it should.

light and compact.

Plugs right into the battery without the need for pigtails or clips or eye rings.

* Last updated by: Rook on 2/12/2012 @ 11:36 PM *

Yo Rook....why aren't you putting that shorai pigtail on the battery,and running it above the engine case there out of sight?You mean you're pulling that battery case cover off and all that every time you want to maintain your bat?You know you don't need to do all that,right?Lot easier to have that pigtail on there.I just hang the tender(the hook)right on the footpeg there,and let er run.I have NOT attached the tender to it now for at least a month..She's firing perfectly....one turn...bam...fires right up.And it's been 30 degrees in my garage pretty much all Winter so far.I think these Shorais are VERY GOOD batteries.Glad I listened to ya about these.

I wasn't 'too' sure about the security of the connector there going into the battery...so I figured...attach that pigtail,and leave that battery where it's at.I didn't want to be removing that connector from there.Just seemed like a possible weak link to me?So none of that particular wiring ever gets moved or pulled on.Pull the pigtail down from under that frame area right there(I've got it secured with a ziptie back under the bodywork),and hook those two white plugs together..Voila!

Have my pigtail for my heated gear connector right there also(co-axial)
That whole deal can be tucked up inside the engine case to the rear...don't even see it.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 2/13/2012 @ 1:21 AM *

Dogo:

Hmmm... maybe I didn't get a recalled one. I just kinda assumed since I was one of the first to jump... You still remember the recalled one's #'s, Scott?

dogo heres the lot # of the bad 18's- 18A1 lot# AWREEZ

* Last updated by: scottjkyl on 2/13/2012 @ 4:22 AM *

You mean you're pulling that battery case cover off and all that every time you want to maintain your bat?You know you don't need to do all that,right?Lot easier to have that pigtail on there.I just hang the tender(the hook)right on the footpeg

thanks for the tip Grn, I will do that under frame to engine compartment. I did not know there was a space up front of the battery box to run a connector. I'll have to check that out.

I have my AutoTune wire and SpeedoHealer wires going up through that space but that is on the left side.

...I think the charger should be positioned above the battery to prevent the possibility of igniting outgassing. I am pretty sure the Shorai charger manual said to do that. I know lead acid batteries can cause an explosion. Never heard it happen but the potential is there.

Wow, I'm feeling guilty. I do Zero Batt maitainence. My current 18AH has been in the meat locker(garage) for 2 months starts like a charm. Can't say that about any of the otheres I've tried. Terminials are much beefier on the New Shorai.

Should I be the guinea pig?

Coin toss. Who gives the most with the lightest weight ? Sounds like the one Rook has is a winner if price & weight are important to you. I've never been a flag waver of any one brand. If your new batt gives more with better features go for it. Batt Tech is changing fast. Keeping up will be the hard part. Plutonium pill next lol.

Pic shows stock charging voltage reading is off

* Last updated by: Romans on 2/15/2012 @ 4:32 PM *

Coin toss. Who gives the most with the lightest weight ? Sounds like the one Rook has is a winner if price & weight are important to you. I've never been a flag waver of any one brand

Where did you get those CF covers? they look real good?

* Last updated by: dragking on 2/15/2012 @ 12:24 PM *

"and only .4 lbs",...that's pretty darn light for a battery expected to crank a big inline cold.?????
Quote from their website......"# is not actual cranking amps, only an approximation".

I just checked "LithiumMoto"...their lightest one is .7 lbs.The 'heaviest' one.....4 lbs.I don't think that .7 is gonna crank the big ninja for long.110 CA?....ummmmmmm.No thanks.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 2/15/2012 @ 12:48 PM *

The lithium moto is 2 lbs. So + 0.4 lbs compared to Rook's but has more cranking power (not that I really need it)

I gotta say...just my opinion here...but the construction of their battery to me doesn't bode good feelings.The terminals on top like that?Maybe nothing....but just appears to be kinda...well....anyway.My Shorai is doing very well so far.Fires up perfectly....maintains a charge.Happy with it.You have to be able to trust your bike and stuff.This battery is performing excellently.Lots of cold weather here throughout the riding season.I NEED a battery that'll hold up and work right.

My impression of those batteries there...RACE applications.Made to be easy and quick to remove or whatever.I know they mention autos and such on there...okay...maybe.But it seemed slanted towards racing applications IMO.Nothing wrong with that...but....over the long haul?....IDK.

Reminds me of that Turntech I got.SOUNDED real cool. I suppose it could have been...IF....I wanted to reset my clock EVERYTIME I went to start my engine.The idea of having to engage the starter several times before achieving cranking amps just wasn't doing it for me

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 2/15/2012 @ 1:29 PM *

Reminds me of that Turntech I got.SOUNDED real cool. I suppose it could have been...IF....I wanted to reset my clock EVERYTIME I went to start my engine

Trying to think of something good to say about the TurnTech,,,,, ok, it's light, it's small, Makes a great paper weight ? Yep, that's it lol. Us guinea pigs did not do to well on that one. Better luck next time.

I get more power and only .4 lbs, I also pay $25 more but get a little better quality (according to lithium moto). I should literally leave it to a coin toss lol

hmmm, from your info above I would try the new one. I paid more than 25 to ship back for return,,,

I will say this, Shoria does have amazing customer support. Something to consider.

I will say this, Shoria does have amazing customer support. Something to consider.

I've got get some BST's before summer

Sounds sweeeeet. I want those tooooo,,,,, BUT, like I was pointing out a few threads back carrozzeria TRI Rs = beyond Sweeeeeet, comes with New rotors For what I still can't believe the price. Weight for the dolar ====== take a look. Rook just jumped in. Send him a pm. Maybe I just saved you over a grand or pissed u off U decide lol.