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Created on: 10/21/19 04:00 AM

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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
10/29/19 3:41 PM

Good to know , thanks Rook bro . Just pulled the 14R fairings off for my first time , sort of comparable to the Gen 2 Busa in intricacy and complexity , maybe a bit easier even . I am enjoying just messing around with a different bike , so far , and will give it a careful clean today , and remove the stock exhaust .



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
10/29/19 4:05 PM

I absolutely HATE those two clamps holding the lower fairing to the midfairing.I think they could have done better on those.Maybe a wellnut or something?In truth though,that whole side fairing CAN be removed in one piece.That's how I do it anyway.

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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
10/29/19 7:11 PM

Yes , those are a bit tricky , sort of floating suspended arrangement . I certainly needed the service manual , those were a thing that a newbie like myslf would of missed for sure . I have actually been checking out Brocks excellent tutorials on youtube , for the ZX14R , and they are an excellent help . I will remember what you said about both pieces removable together next time Grn14 , cheers .



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
10/31/19 4:03 AM


Body work off , In my last post I got a bit mixed up , the main issue I had to watch for was the tank cover removal , the lug that the cover joins up to , that is sort of not fixed firmly , but hanging on a tag only with grommet . The mufflers are off , the bike will be cleaned , then the headers off , oil change and filter , then new pipe and pc5 fitment .



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
10/31/19 6:51 AM

Then the forks and maybe some BSTs after a while.



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
10/31/19 7:01 AM

Oh yeah bro , good news , the BST's arrive end of next week , the exhaust etc. is due Monday , but it maybe earlier for both shipments . Really happy about that , so I will as promised post up pics of the bits before fitment and after . I will have to score some tires in the days following their arrival , and the forks should be ready tomorrow , but we will see .


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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/01/19 6:49 AM

Oh yeah bro , good news , the BST's arrive end of next week , the exhaust etc. is due Monday , but it maybe earlier for both shipments .

Can't wait to see that so I can live vicariously through my buddy, Toad!!

I will have to score some tires in the days following their arrival

I would go with a set of Metzler Racetec Comp K with 200/55 rear. To me, they seem very similar to the Pirelli Superbike Pro slicks I loved so much. Nice stiff sidewalls, good for low psi if you want, sticky as all heck without tire warmers as long as you have warm asphalt, high center and steep side tread, light in weight. No problem riding the Racetecs on the road in hot weather but I don't go out in the rain and I'm pretty careful about dusty conditions too.

The Bridgestone RS10s I now have on the 14 are good enough but I do not care for the very round profile. For a guy who can wear the sides out more than the middle, the RS10 might be just the ticket.



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/01/19 5:29 PM

I will be talking to my tire fitting shop this week , I hope I can get a set of RS10's fast , I'd like them for first new set on this bike , but I could still change my mind . I do like the Pirelli sc2 or even 3 , in 200/60 + bigger rear sprocket , and the Metzeler do sound rather tasty too bro , I will check them out for sure .
So the pipe etc. did indeed arrive yesterday , the Ohlins are back as well , so it time to start the fitment .
Pic of the parts now already to fit up .



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/02/19 3:16 PM

Beautiful parts!!! Makes my heart sing!!

As far as the tire diameter, I'm pretty sure the Gen1 ZX-14 swing arm presents more limitation than the busa. there is a pic of the 200/55 pirelli I put on my 08 on the link below. That was with stock wheel base. I have a 45T rear sprocket but added a link to the chain. Anyway, just measured WB carefully last summer and it was stock length. So --- make sure your tire guy checks carefully if you plan on anything taller than a 200/55.


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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/02/19 4:43 PM

I found the stock Busa arm to be okay (just) with the 200/55 + 45 tooth (thanks to Sixpack , from the org.) ,I haven't looked for the chain length etc. info yet , I have been messing around thinking about all the other stuff !! I got a new chain ready to go , it is 122 links , so I imagine it may need to be cut . I'm now thinking I will run the 45 tooth , same as you do bro . I think because the taller tire is going to change things , the 45t might be good and be like a 190/50 with 43 tooth maybe , I will check that chart guide , I guess it now needs a speedo healer eh bro .
I will take the rims in and be fitted up , I always do , I do not like people ( shops ) touching the bike if at all possible , except my tuning shop .
Hey bro , I weighed up the stock 14R pipes , I got 18.76 kg , and I will weigh my CT Meg to see what I save .



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/03/19 1:47 AM

Oh boy , just been reading up a bit about ZX14R short gearing change and potential stutter . I will go ahead with the stock gearing , and run the 42 tooth rear . I hope the tire height will be countered somewhat by the width of the massive BST it will be fitted too .



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/03/19 11:37 AM

I got a new chain ready to go , it is 122 links , so I imagine it may need to be cut . I'm now thinking I will run the 45 tooth , same as you do bro . I think because the taller tire is going to change things , the 45t might be good and be like a 190/50 with 43 tooth maybe , I will check that chart guide , I guess it now needs a speedo healer eh bro .

Stock rear sprocket for the Gen1 is 41T so I am at +4. For me, it is about the same feeling as running a gear lower than the actual gear I am in. It is still very predictable as I'm sure the busa is with short gearing. Withthe 45t and a 190/55 to a 200/55 or 190/60, the speedo is just about corrected. I do have a Speedohealer with a small correction but I don't recall now what that % was. It was spot on according to GPS from 0 mph up to about 90 where I decided it was too dangerous to be looking at a GPS while riding at that speed. Your Gen2 is bound to be a little different with speedo error, chain length and of course the gearing. Also, I believe the Gen2 does not read the speed off the countershaft nut like the Gen1 does. The Gen2 probably reads the speed off of the rear tone wheel, maybe?

Speaking of the Speedohealer, I think that was the source of a speedo freak out/rough stuttering incident I had with the bike years ago right after I washed it. The speedo stuck at about 90 and then it went to 0 and stayed there. It totally cleared after it sat a few hours and I turned on the ignition. I suggest wrapping the inline connectors with electrical tape to keep water out. Also don't spray the bike with water. I mop it with a drenched towel but never spray again after that problem I had.


Oh boy , just been reading up a bit about ZX14R short gearing change and potential stutter . I will go ahead with the stock gearing , and run the 42 tooth rear . I hope the tire height will be countered somewhat by the width of the massive BST it will be fitted too .

There must be some kind of flash adjustment to eliminate the short gearing trouble with the Gen2. I think you will be fine with the tire unless you went all the way to a 200/60. That would probably rub on a stock WB Gen1.


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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/03/19 2:13 PM

I just had the ECU flashed by Guhl / Brocks , I did not really look into this issue , I hope this up to date flash corrects things , but I will ask Brocks tonight . I like the stock gearing on the 14R , that is with the 190/55 currently fitted , but the flattened out slightly 200 should be similar anyway , but I will try the 45t if I can , I am 118kg naked ... I kill off the power to weight quite a bit !! I changed out the Busa gearing as mentioned , it has now run 18t/47t for street for some time now , because it is like you say , being in the right gear 1 earlier , and truly entertaining on my favorite roads .
I will only go a Pirelli set for the 200/60 , if my tire man cannot get the Bridgestones quickly . The BST shouldn't be far off now , so I got my dog watching out for the delivery man while I get on to putting the exhaust on .



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/03/19 5:50 PM

Just weighed the Brocks CT Meg with the sealed packet of springs , spigots and steel mounting bracket , and got 4.05kg or 8.928 lb total . Got to be pretty happy with that , over 14kg gone just there .



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/03/19 8:58 PM

That's a lot of goodies! Welcome to the forum!

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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/04/19 6:37 AM

I got my dog watching out for the delivery man while I get on to putting the exhaust on .


My shepherd used to scare the breezes out of the mailman!! That dog was just a big pussycat after he got done barking at the closed door!


Just weighed the Brocks CT Meg with the sealed packet of springs , spigots and steel mounting bracket , and got 4.05kg or 8.928 lb total .

Insanity!! Absolute insanity, isn't it? I always heard Brocks was about 8 lbs and I speculated that must be just the muffler. Thanks for posting that important info. Wish I had a Brocks but I think I will have just a slash cut collector pipe and a dump pipe sticking out the bottom up front someday.


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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/04/19 2:53 PM

Thank you for the welcome KoflaOlivieri , I see from your bike list you are certainly a true Kawasaki enthusiast , be great to have such a collection .
Cheers ,
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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/04/19 3:18 PM

Yes Rook , I am also impressed with that saving bro , it is awesome going Brocks titanium . I think your idea of turbo will be a great choice , because living in the States , you have plenty of experts to choose from when it comes to turbo builds , those slash cut pipes are the ultimate sign of BIG POWER for sure !! It is a little different over here , of course there are some experts here too , but I think normally aspirated is going to be good for this 14R , and eventually , possibly , supercharged for the Busa . If I lived in the States , I think turbo would be the choice for me also though bro .
I fitted up the CT headers yesterday , today I will wipe them down with alcohol swabs , and fit the rest of it up . Next will be secondary air , plug block off , and should get started on the PC5 fitment . Still watching out for the wheels to arrive , plenty to keep me occupied luckily !!



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/05/19 9:38 PM

The BST's arrived today , very happy with them , now looking forward to getting them fitted up with RS10's ( next week ) and then on the bike . I decided on a Galfer rear rotor + ti bolts along with Vortex sprocket + ti carrier nuts and bolts , with a new EK chain . The BST's are fitted with ceramic bearings and are stealthed out black hubs , the rear is a beefy 6.625" . Here is a couple of pics



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/06/19 12:07 AM

Damn Toad, some nice upgrades there.
Nice work.

With that kind of serious financial backing you can square away an H2 carbon when the 14R project is finished...



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/06/19 1:25 AM

Hahahah Yannih , I do like the H2 for sure . I seen one up close when they first were released over here , and it looked a little too small for my fat ass !! Still would like one though , a mate of mine is seriously considering one , I got him wound up about Kawasaki's , namely the H2 and the ZX14R , triggered him with all this trick hardware I'm buying for the 14R . I think this will be the last project for awhile , for now at least , I just want to ride this thing . We got xmas next , so the bike will stay as is for awhile , till I can save up again and finish it next year !! I think a H2 would be very tempting if I found a good buy though .....



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/06/19 6:23 AM

The BST's are fitted with ceramic bearings and are stealthed out black hubs , the rear is a beefy 6.625" .

6.25" is the widest rim? A tad heavier but extra strong, I'm guessing.

Black hubs? Can you order BSTs in colors? I would like to keep the BSTs for my busa as black as possible but ordinary BST's often look grey in pics I see.

Why not the BST RapidTecs? Those seem to be the lightest according to my research.



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/06/19 3:19 PM

These BST's are the original Black Diamond , the set is the R version , they are still natural glossed color / but with black aluminum hubs /centers . I am lucky enough to have the option of any wheel set for this bike , including the very lightest versions from BST , so the newer Rapid Techs , or even the latest Rotobox wheels . But I love this original style BST best of all for this bike , and only the 6.00" is readily available for any of the mentioned wheels .
The 6.625" is the biggest in this original BST style , made to drop into the ZX14R . The 6.25" is also available in this original type , but not in R form , but street as fitted to my Busa . If this huge size rim messes up the handling that bad , I will get a 6.25" replacement for street riding , and only put the 6.625" on for some drag racing etc . The billet disc carriers and sprocket carrier on my Busa's BST's for example , are in original natural finish , and can appear dull if not buffed a bit , where as this stealth black will probably show up dirt grime more .
With this bike especially and even the Busa , I am not overly concerned about maximum weight loss , having said that , I will be chipping away at it no doubt , because I like a lighter weight bike best . But if I was able to physically fit and really serious , I would definitely start off with a hot light liter bike , zx10 or a BMW 1000 RR or even a H2 .
The ZX14R though , was chosen , because it is the right machine for what I want from a motorcycle at this very time , I love everything about it so far , and it is an excellent companion machine to my street racer Hayabusa .


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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/07/19 5:56 AM

But I love this original style BST best of all for this bike ,

I agree regarding appearance. The original design is best out of all the designs to choose from.



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RE: new to '13 ZX14R
11/10/19 4:30 AM

Well been onto it the last couple of days , gave the bike a full service , fitted up the pipe , and pc5 . Today I fitted up the Ohlins forks , the wheels are yet to be fitted with tires .



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