OK. I bought a 09 zx14 which someone had laid down with plastic damaged. I took of the front forks and one was 50 microns out of round and another was 450 out of round. I replaced the 450 one. I also put on a brand new front tire. The rear is pretty flat-spotted - I need to replace that I know. The fork settings are identical. Now the bike feel real unstable. I get used to it but when I'm on the freeway and its windy - I feel real squirrelly. Dont like it. Just doesnt feel like its tracking right. EVerything is tight and nothing is getting hot so I dont think its bearings or anything like that but something is wrong. It wasnt like taht before I made the changes. Anyone have any ideas? Could it be due to the new front tire and flatted rear? Doesnt seem like that would make such a HUGE difference like it does. Everythign looks straight- I'm not really sure how to physcially measure the straightness of the triple. I'm going to try the string alignment between front and back wheels next. Any help is appreciated. I'm lost as to why this feels so unstable and even wobbl y on the freeway. BTW I did raise my front end by maybe 1/8" - I'm going to put that back down to stock (ANyone know what the stock setting is on the forks?) to see if that helps.

Well...that rear COULD be contributing to this feel.But I don't think this is just that at all.Shouldn't the front forks be exactly the same in 'roundness'?Maybe Hub will chime in on this....You sure the forks are set up identical?In the triple trees?And what speed is this deal happening...and does it vary as you slow down or turn at speed or speed up?You mention 'wind'...I've been in some very serious sidewinds before on mine...no wiggle or wobble ever...just a deep lean angle while going straight.(well..not TOO deep...but leaned over yes)

"It wasnt like taht before I made the changes"...okay...there's your baseline. Where were they at then?The whole bike I mean.Excluding tires.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 8/29/2014 @ 6:13 PM *

Well the one fork was bent 450 microns (not really roundness-just a way to measure to see if the fork is bent) and I replaced that. And I put on a new tire- 2 good things and things got worse. The other change was raising the front of the bike a little. I lowered it now to see if that helps. It doesnt matter the speed - its unstable going slow - just worse in the high speed wind. Doesnt change when turning - same all the time. Feel like I have to lean the bike a little going straight - wonder if the new fork i bought has a bad spring - any way to check that anyone? Also does anyone know if there is a different in spring rates or anything like that between years? Maybe the used fork I replaced it with has a weaker spring?

* Last updated by: dnapowersports on 8/29/2014 @ 9:51 AM *

There can be no diagnosis until both wheels have fresh rubber.

Until then you are chasing your turtle.

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...someone had laid down with plastic damaged.

Let me guess. I've been doing this for a long time.

one was 50 microns out of round and another was 450 out of round.

I'm going to guess it took a lot of energy to move metal like that.

Everything looks straight- I'm not really sure how to physcially measure the straightness of the triple.

You don't know what's straight until you replace every part on that bike go chase your turtles.

I'm going to try the string alignment between front and back wheels next.

I'm going to tie a knot on my finger and remember to buy the upper/lower/other fork leg so I am not looking up my ass for the problem look at how I wear my G-string for gut the front end.

...why this feels so unstable (ANyone know what the stock setting is on the forks?) to see if that helps.

You do not buy crashed bikes. Those are parts bikes. Now you go doing something stupid as to fix the bike up so it steers like normal. No string, no new tire, no fork up or down is going to do jackshit.

Signed,

You might need a frame too where are the cracks at the welds???

Oh, all this money into this bike I now could have bought a leftover. It rides weird... I could have told you that but would you have listened?

* Last updated by: Hub on 8/29/2014 @ 6:11 PM *

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You r an idiot an ahole. I paid 2500 for it. Engine is worth that. Anyone here have something intelligent to say besides this moron?

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 8/30/2014 @ 9:52 PM *

You r an idiot an ahole.

This tells me I got Vic'd or more, I explain in detail the why it feels spooky is because it is bent at the front for sure. I need to see what the back looks like so I can see a whack at the swing arm and oh look, the fucking asshole bought an engine and he's calling me an idiot for telling him the spook is in the bends. LOL I LOVE DISSHIT! U ID D Ate! Dump Fuk!

I paid 2500 for it.

WAD the fuck do I care what wrinkle you bought... It's BENT P-E-R-I-O-D! There, I spelled it out on my first post and now relax, you bought a cheap bike now fix it for double the price. Start calling me an idiot because you are going to restore a salvaged bike some expert called not worth who knows how you got it, not my 'concern.' LOL, don't chew love it?

Engine is worth that.

You asshole! Instead of taking a bike repair personal, get the fuck in the garage and look at the fucking welds you IDIOT! Do you need a fucking frame is not my concern but are you too insulted to look at your fucking bike like a pro or a squid? Take the advice or shove it up your ass no concern of mine! How's the red carpet feel you go stepping on it like an idiot over a fucking bent bike that's not even mine or I'd be there with a glass loop it rides spooky/sketchy. You're the asshole. How do you like it? Not my concern just like playing mirror U/do unto others/goodeedickheadose.

Anyone here have something intelligent to say besides this moron?

Are you still here crying about that bent up pile of shit or are we on the same page go look.

Fucking moron has no clue he hops on a bend bike and bleeds squid it rides sketchy/squirrelly/squiddy. I can't help it, dn. Don't you look like an idiot asking if my bent bike runs straight like new?

* Last updated by: Hub on 8/30/2014 @ 11:33 PM *

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Hoe we shit... BesThread for 2014.

NO, over here!

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You Fucking Idiot, I am pointed this way but the bike is going the other way.

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anybody want to buy a bike?

dnapowersports.com

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THAT's a SWEET yammie there;)Seriously.Although...I think the 'garage' is a tad unsecure;)

Kill yourself asshole. I make good money and have 100% pos feedback on eBay. I make sure everything is right before I sell anything. You're a joke. STFU idiot. Meet me in person if u have the balls. Contact me through my website. Or stfu loser. What a shtty site. All losers no helpers.

Kill yourself asshole. I make good money and have 100% pos feedback on eBay. I make sure everything is right before I sell anything. You're a joke. STFU idiot. Meet me in person if u have the balls. Contact me through my website. Or stfu loser. What a shtty site. All losers no helpers.

No there are some people here that can help. Hub is just one of those extreme dickheads that thinks because he has experience with bike repair and performance upgrades he can condescend to everyone, like he has skills no one else is capable of learning. Some of the people here lick his sack, which doesn't bother me that's between them and him. I'll pass. Plenty of people as knowledgeable or more, more helpful, and better at sharing information.

Another forum I'm on (Kawiforums) has a guy exactly like Hub. I mean, they could be brothers. They could be the same person for as much as I can tell. Both just shitty assholes with egos the size of a hot air balloon. This other guy (presumed) is named LocknLoad. He actually had the balls (the overinflated ego) to claim that "I built my bike from the ground up, you bought yours". What, like he mined the ore and smelted the metals? And made the molds and machined all his parts? See what I mean about over-ego-inflated-fuck-knobs.

As far as your company, hey there's plenty of bike shops out there that buy salvaged bikes repair and sell them. The people that want to pile on your because they lick Hubs ass, fuck them they're total tools whether they realize it or not.

Stick around for a while. It'll help change things around here.

* Last updated by: VicThing on 9/2/2014 @ 9:30 AM *

Meet me in person if u have the balls. Contact me through my website. Or stfu loser. What a shtty site. All losers no helpers.

If I said, dna, I've been working on bikes a long time and the only way to solve a poor steering situation like yours is to replace the other fork, the upper and lower crown and I think she'll steer a lot better. I hear these box frames are very stout and with some to most situations, the frame is free of continued energy absorption, but I would check the welds at the neck, they are a dead giveaway about replacing the frame.

I think you missed my humor. You bought well and with the front end fixed, that is one long lasting fast bike. And because you did not put the 2&2 together, I thought I'd poke you for fun, but I need to grab my balls, bring my blowtorch and heat the sack so they drop some and slap the shit out of you with them. What are you getting upset over a bent bike for?

Do you feel insulted that I bought a bent bike and it steers funny? I see one part bought and you tried it and no joy. You come on and USE the Q&A and when you come looking for an answer to a crash job, it's hard core, get away from the bike or take the advice I need to contact you about your own purchase? What is going on here?

Q. My bent bike is sketchy.
A. Buy forks and crowns, plus check frame welds and buy a frame if you see the black paint showing aluminum colored cracks thru the paint. Check rear swing arm for same energy bends sent to the ground.

Now, do I really need to call you, find out where you live and bring my dueling blowtorches? Do you know why this thread rocks? Balls/Dueling/Bent Dicks drawn.

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Yikes. I'd love to see the listing for this when it gets put up for sale.
Caveat Emptor.

'Gently used hyperbike, rides smooth, won't kill you at all'.

In before "How dare you besmirch my reputation and question me" yada yada.
Hub was provocative but you don't put forth a very good image yourself dna.

Make it really right and still make a profit, while being honest about its history, best of luck.
Probably should just cut your losses and part it out.

* Last updated by: tooncinator on 9/2/2014 @ 10:27 AM *

Vic, this is Q&A. You said nothing about the subject. Help, contribute or sit this one out. You now have to prove to me you've got what it takes. Where where you finding washers to an engine? Either you know your shit or you are blowing air. Speaking about air, how much is in that cylinder chamber? LOL

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HUB WROTE:

Vic, this is Q&A. You said nothing about the subject. Help, contribute or sit this one out. You now have to prove to me you've got what it takes. Where where you finding washers to an engine? Either you know your shit or you are blowing air. Speaking about air, how much is in that cylinder chamber? LOL

It's a shame I actually have to tell you this hub, you don't set the rules here.

Your snide comment proves my point about you being condescending asshole better than I could ever do myself. And about your point, How come you're not saying anything to the other 3 or 4 people who's post had nothing to do with the thread subject? At least 50% of threads in this entire forum have people who've hijacked the thread. Hell, you and your buddies hijacked my PCV vs. Flash thread talking about high speed racing, and they even started their own thread. How come you didn't tell them to post that in their own thread? Guess that makes you a hypocritical condescending asshole.

People are tired of you old timers with your whatever-it-is superior asshole personality bullshit. No one buys it anymore but you're still selling it hard.

Vic, you're like my buddy getting all hopped over nothing. I'm just pushing your buttons. I have no beef with you.

Hell, you and your buddies hijacked my PCV vs. Flash thread... and they even started their own thread. How come you didn't tell them to post that in their own thread? Guess that makes you a hypocritical condescending asshole.

Once the subject turns to me, we have a problem with the thread. We were discussing the bike and a tune. I see no jacking of a thread they take it farther or open a new thread and begin a new discussion. You sir, are getting old bringing me up and really, it's your problem and I kind of enjoy what is nothing more than trivial you being out in the open public air to air your differences.

Lots of strange idiots telling you the watt4, but I do not have a problem you can come to your own conclusions about people. Do not be surprised I may find a little mirror of your own self as you speak. So are you one of those runner uppers that is about to tell me about your whatever you need to get off your chest?

I work not in the auto/cycle/jet/diesel/train industry, but shuffled paper all my life but I did sleep with my motorcycle at a motel6 is it?

* Last updated by: Hub on 9/2/2014 @ 1:15 PM *

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The web is still capturing the preyLOL!!!!

http://www.kawiforums.com/two-wheeled-discussion/312793-do-you-down-shift-when-coming-stop-just-pull-clutch-coast-3.html

Vic, I'll let this ONE page speak for itself. Plus, LnL, the guy you mentioned seemed like he can makes a good point and that was just the one thing about his safety being 3rd. Then, your buddy 1000 sort of told you a MSF course might be best for your questionable shifting ability? You're sort of fitting in there and here. Not my biz how you go about it.

I have my blowtorch near my scrotum just in case, though. LOLOLOL

Totally bored, yes. Seems like that's wherever you go, right?

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The web is still capturing the preyLOL!!!!

Look at that clock gap. Of all places to show up.

They won't get it, Grn

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Do not be surprised I may find a little mirror of your own self as you speak.

You're the one complaining about hijacking threads, not me. Whether you want to single yourself out ("Once I become the subject") as some special hijacking exception is your own hypocritical reasoning. Thread hijacking is thread hijacking, apparently either not against forum rules or it's not enforced, only when you think it should be. You routinely hijack threads, it's hypocritical of you to complain about hijacking just because you're the topic. Also, you became the topic before I joined in, and for good reasons too. Maybe if stopped to understand why, this stupid fucking conversation wouldn't be taking place.

Vic, I'll let this ONE page speak for itself. Plus, LnL, the guy you mentioned seemed like he can makes a good point and that was just the one thing about his safety being 3rd. Then, your buddy 1000 sort of told you a MSF course might be best for your questionable shifting ability? You're sort of fitting in there and here. Not my biz how you go about it.

This is a prime example of you being a condescending asshole. You find a page and pick it out and say looky here Vic's got problems! Did you even bother to read the entire thread? I wasn't even the subject of the thread, that dude's just trolling me. You know how I know, cause he's trolling me in this thread too read it douchebag. So take your example and shove back down your asshole.

You want to talk about track records, I have 120 post and have 3 likes, your little circle-jerking buddy has like 1300 posts and received 9 likes in 8 years. But what do I expect from a dumbshit fuckwad like you? The same shit I expect from dumbshit fuckwads everywhere, to only have the most base, cursory understanding of issues. Never under estimated, always over estimated.

If people around here want to lick your balls because you know so much about motorcycles, that's fine by me. That's between you and them. As far as I'm concerned, you can fuck off. Keep your advice, your stupid shit specious reasoning talking warranties and taking parts calling mechanics and shit to yourself. Shit that you can look up in a service manual, you're right about. But who can't look shit up in a manual? That's what manuals are for. Other shit like hypothetical and technical stuff, you're just blowing smoke out your ass. My feces understands more about logic circuits than you'll ever know you fucking idiot.

And let someone else have the last word once ffs.

I just re-read the thread title and this recent turn of discourse, shockingly, is exactly on topic.

This is a prime example of you being a condescending asshole.

I find you very condescending. You remind me of the look at me, my shit [nor comment] do not stink.

You find a page and pick it out and say looky here Vic's got problems!

Vic, you have more than bike problems, insurance fraud, who knows what is in that closet of yours? I rather not know.

Did you even bother to read the entire thread?

Yeah, LnL has been there since 2007 and you show up with a computer bike looking for questions about it? Buy the fucking book you being so smart.

You want to talk about track records, I have 120 post and have 3 likes, your little circle-jerking buddy has like 1300 posts and received 9 likes in 8 years.

awwwwwww, look at the post police giving Vicky boy badges being a good boy on the forum. Look at me, I have 3 circle-jerk stars and I've only been there a month. Everyone likes me! I Need a lot of social reinforcement is it? Think I give a shit about a fucking 'like?' Like, fuck you and your gold stars is more like it.

Keep your advice, your stupid shit specious reasoning talking warranties and taking parts calling mechanics and shit to yourself.

And you are going to take over? Are you helping the OP at all coming to his thread? Didn't you jack his thread? I have a qualifier question for you. But you'll flunk it anyway so once you answer it, it's all downhill from there you think you know your shit. I can hold my own, pal.

My feces understands more about logic circuits than you'll ever know you fucking idiot.

And that's why a fucking idiot like yourself is asking about a flash and a pig and you are going to tell me about OR and NOR, and here you are clueless about your own computer bike. That's rich!

Why is the GPS used as a sensor? Open book, pal! First simple qualifier question. Someone with your computer background should whip this theory right out, no book needed.

And let someone else have the last word once ffs.

Oh you are so full of yourself, this Q&A is all yours. How's that? Can you handle it? Fucking idiot knows shit about this bike. I'll expect that answer since I asked it in the Q&A and don't need to start another thread. Just wanted to show you how you start in with excuses and not the answer, we know where you are in all thishit... Right up my ass trying to find the other members but that was your assumption... Since you like to have the last word, it's yours now. GPSays it all!

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