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Created on: 10/20/11 06:00 PM

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Bearing #'s
10/20/11 6:00 PM

Hi guys. I'm looking for the bearing #'s for what is shown as 92045. Help. Would like to have 2 new ones in hand before I take apart. click look at 92045.

Click 92045 is their part #. I need the #off the bearing Help

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RE: Bearing #'s
10/20/11 6:32 PM

92045-1384 BEARING-BALL,SF07A17PX1V1(never seen this thing before...but punching in 2 qty will get you those bearings)(at $23 something apiece).


92045-1384...that's your bearing number.


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/20/11 10:30 PM

NO NO NO!!!!That does NOT come in a set.Every piece is separate.The bearing will not come with the race and whatever.NO!And ordering a quantity of 1 will get you ONE bearing...that's it.NO race,no nothing else.If you're looking at the QTY box and seeing 2 in there(before you enter a qty)...that's telling you that you need TWO on the motorcycle,NOT that you're receiving TWO in the package.You have to re-enter 2 in that box.Notice the part number on there?One upper,one lower...but BOTH the same #.$23 bucks for ONE bearing.See those other parts listed...see the qty box...that's telling you how many you need for you bike.But you can order just ONE bearing,or as many as you want(natch).


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/20/11 10:40 PM

Hubster....what does TWO(2) on there mean?Okay?....waiting.

IF you have ONE shot bearing....you enter 1 on the qty.C'mon my man.....schematics are nothing new to me.TWO parts...same part #Identical.No need to label them different,whether upper or lower.


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/20/11 10:56 PM

NO NO NO!!!!Listen....the seals are separate.The lines you're seeing are NOT connected.I'm telling you.They are NOT connected.The seal line is darker and travelling THROUGH the cross line that's showing the bearing.Look on the qty list at the seals...$12 dollars and something.QTY.....1...What they're showing is A and B...upper and lower seal(s)Look at the part number list.....the number(for the seal,and the letter for upper or lower.See that?I'm not full of shit here bro.He will NOT get those upper and lower seals by ordering QTY 1 or any other qty using that bearing number.They are sold separate.A is the lower seal,B is the upper seal.The diagram is showing which part goes where,NOT what comes in the package of 1 qty for the bearing.


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/20/11 11:05 PM

Okay tech...have it your way.When you order a belly fairing,and you see 2 in the qty.@ 156.00 or whatever,do you get the set sent to you?Yet the part is listed as same number,but r.h,or l.h.Go ahead...tell Romes to order the bearing number only.Then tell him to go ahead and wait for his 'set' to arrive.When his bearing shows up....but no seals...tell him to contact those guys and tell em they fucj$ up.Go ahead.you see this?Tell me what you're lookin at,...shall I help you?Well....what's up?


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/20/11 11:14 PM

You're gonna 'school' me when I'm showing you the physical truth about ordering these 'sets' of parts?Every piece you see in that pic,though it creates a set when assembled,are SEPARATE sold items.I did NOT get the seals and whatever just ordering the BEARING.Geez bro....why you insist on blowing smoke?You're wrong..I'm right.That's it bro.He needs to order those seals and stuff SEPARATE!!!!!!!!!!If you STILL think I'm fulkl of shit...go look on the parts fiche for zx14,2007,rear wheel bearing.I ordered the bearing....every item in that pic I posted cost separate...it did NOT come WITH the bearing as part of THAT number.It was in it's own package,and was shipped in the same box...but it was NOT included just because it shows on the site that they 'go together'...which it does show that...just like your steering head bearings.Man.....


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/20/11 11:21 PM

Look...you want to draw me into some stupid "prove this" deal....I've ordered em...for my front and back wheels.Steering head diagram.....rear/front wheel diagram...same friggin deal.And your answer to my previous question to you is parroted back to me as if I needed to understand?Okay...whatever ya say Hub.What's this my man?Take a guess....FOUR SEPARATE PIECES which,just coincidentally,make a SET!


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/20/11 11:30 PM

I DID help the OP...you're the one trying to prove how smart you are!I told him exactly what he needs to do.You say...NO WAY...don't do it like he says.Who's helping who?


You know...they have Aricept for what may be occurring with you my man.WHO SAID TO LOOK FOR A WHEEL BEARING SET ON A STEERING HEAD DIAGRAM??????You can't possibly be serious,I hope.Please,tell me not to worry about you Hubster.


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/20/11 11:41 PM

WOT 4?If he does YOUR way...he's gonna be waiting another week or so for his "next' order for seals and such.If he does it MY way....he's gonna be happy as a clam and change his bearings,seals all at the same time.WTF is wrong with you?I love ya buddy,but you sure can make a simple situation COMPLICATED and confusing(to some).You actually think THIS discussion is 'helping' me?I'm not ordering head bearings. I could care less whether I'm the "one" shining here or not.Right is right,WRONG IS WRONG...regardless of WHO's telling it .Sheesh.If you think I'm trying to direct Romes to get the right stuff so he can pat me on the back...or anyone else...you got me pegged WAY WAY wrong.There's a saying in a program that I used to go to...it says..."leave yer ego at the door".....


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/20/11 11:57 PM

Abstract?It's a friggin comparison...that's all .If anyone's the MASTER at blowin smoke...it'd have to be you bro!!!


I'm gonna tell Romes to order his steering head parts off the rear wheel diagram?


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/21/11 12:01 AM

"all of a sudden"? My FIRST advice to Romes was.....ORDER THE PARTS SEPERATELY...don't expect to receive seals if ONLY ordering the bearing..no matter how many you enter in the qty.You're the one trying to convince Romes he can order the bearing number,and get seals with it.He can't. Period.EVER.NOPE.NADA..aint gonna happen.Sorry.


Yeeesh...did I not say order the parts seperately?If he tears the seal up...fine...he's got the new one to install.Geez man....If he orders the BEARING NUMBER ONLY...that's what he's gonna get.Got it?Good.


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/21/11 12:08 AM

Two bearings,four seals.That's what he needs....end of story.(someone PLEASE turn on a fan in here!!!!!)Can't breathe with all this cloud goin on


"abstract repair'... If you order parts and expect to get 'abstract thinking' from the parts house....you'll be waiting a LONG time for your 'abstract' order.You must have plenty of time my man!Romes wants to get er done in one shot...can ya blame him?


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/21/11 12:18 AM

I said..."Every piece is separate.The bearing will not come with the race and whatever."YOU SAID...That comes in a set.

You can't win.No matter how you attempt to skew this deal...you can't win .


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/21/11 12:42 AM

NOW...I'm gonna help YOU out....apparently,you're having some trouble understanding the diagrams.Okay...so here goes...ahem...lesson 1...when you see a box going around the various parts that are represented in the diagram...that means...ahem...THAT is an assembly.THAT means...it can be ordered as an assembly,already put together.Now...lesson 2...inside that box,the separate parts will be shown that make up that assembly.Each one is numbered,yes?THAT means you can order ANY of those parts seperately if you need to.Getting this?Lesson 3.....the diagram will show HOW the parts are oriented in the complete assembly.Lesson 4....parts that are the same will be designated with a connecting line so duplicate ordering may or may not be necessary.The line represents 'sameness'.IF they are indeed different,as in upper and lower,there will be a lettered 'note' showing that difference,if there IS one.


How's my abstract....doin okay?School's out...you may go to recess now

Just a footnote here....IF THERE IS NO BOX surrounding the parts...it will NOT be sold as an assembly(The box will have it's OWN part number).The parts NOT boxed in will be sold seperately.The parts IN the box can be sold seperately if they are needed...and they'll have a part number for ordering.


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/21/11 2:02 AM

Okay....I see what you're talking about NOW.The race coming with the bearing.Yes..that does come as part of that bearing deal.But in all fairness..your response to his FIRST question was NOT what he was asking.My response to you saying "it comes in a set" was to the separate part number for the seal(s),which YOU said "you are gonna tear em up when....da da da.Those seals are NOT part of the bearing deal.THAT's what I was trying to clarify.NOT whether the race was included.He didn't ask about the race.So....I'm wrong about the part concerning the race...but I'm not wrong about having to order the seal separate.He wanted the bearing....if he orders the bearing,he gets the race as well,but NOT the seals,even though it's showing how they fit on there.

"You ain't ready, pitboy! Use is on the outside looking INN"....not....I made an assumption that the races were already in the steering unit...that they weren't a separate piece...capish?.Just because I didn't realize(cause I've never replaced races on a steering head)that they NEEDED to be replaced along with the bearing doesn't mean I don't understand the diagram)I would have figured it outI wasn't buying the part and planning to install it.I was only telling Romes that the seals are a separate item...and will NOT come with the bearing...but again,you're changing the subject....he wanted bearings...NOT your interpretation of how the race comes with the bearing.


"Two bearings,four seals.That's what he needs". I did not recognize the races as what they were.My BAD....The pic looks like 4 identical seals...but you see that I figured something was 'different' about them cause I mentioned upper and lower...A and B.I would have gotten it had I been ordering and installing myself.That race being included has no connection with the separate seals.Which YOU threw in there.I say again...he wanted the bearing.He didn't ask if the race was included.That was your deal.


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/21/11 2:24 AM

I didn't assume he needed more parts...you did my man.I said...order the bearing number(if it comes with races...fine...but it won't come as a 'set' with seals...that's what I was saying...and you said.."it's in a set""it comes in a set".You said he's gonna tear up the seals.I never said that.I simply didn't know that ring in there was a race.That's all.No biggie.If you recognized that...good on ya.I learned something.I didn't know that the races weren't cast into the steering head.Simple ignorance.Now I know.You said he'll tear up the seals...and made it sound as if ordering that bearing would include those seals.And I said it won't.Am I wrong?If he orders those bearings...is he gonna get seals also thrown in?Races...yes...seals....?????You tell me.


"Hi guys. I'm looking for the bearing #'s for what is shown as 92045. Help. Would like to have 2 new ones in hand before I take apart. click look at 92045."

I said..."92045-1384...that's your bearing number".

You said..."That comes in a set. Upper race-bearing cage-lower race".

"Hi guys. I'm looking for the bearing #'s for what is shown as 92045".

I said..."NO NO NO!!!!That does NOT come in a set.Every piece is separate.The bearing will not come with the race and whatever.NO!And ordering a quantity of 1 will get you ONE bearing...that's it.NO race,no nothing else.If you're looking at the QTY box and seeing 2 in there(before you enter a qty)...that's telling you that you need TWO on the motorcycle,NOT that you're receiving TWO in the package.You have to re-enter 2 in that box.Notice the part number on there?One upper,one lower...but BOTH the same #.$23 bucks for ONE bearing.See those other parts listed...see the qty box...that's telling you how many you need for you bike.But you can order just ONE bearing,or as many as you want(natch).


I said this thinking those were seals...not races.I thought you thought the same thing,even though you mentioned they were races...I somehow didn't see that.Sorry for arguing about something that I was ignorant about.And for saying you're the Master smoke blower.I should know better.Lesson learned.Thanks.And sorry I tried to characterize you as someone you're not.My apologies.

I'm going away now.....goodbye.


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/21/11 3:07 AM

Well shit man...you coulda just said...."Blue...those are RACES in there,not seals".You just HAD to let me carry on...thinkin I was helpin Rome.Geez man..IF there IS a next time....correct me at the beginning will ya?Sheesh.I wouldn't have gone on and on like I did.It aint your fault...I'm the one had to keep defending my position.


"I said..."Every piece is separate.The bearing will not come with the race and whatever".YOU SAID..."That comes in a set".
I said..."You can't win.No matter how you attempt to skew this deal...you can't win "...well,I was wrong about that..


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/21/11 5:47 PM

Man, wait till Romes wakes up and sees the mess you made, blue LOL

Wow, this is almost better than the Ivan Thread lol. More please ,weeeee


You're like my old lady. We go someplace, she reads the map, gets us lost. I grab the map... Picking it up from the floor because she and I went at it like you and I just went at it because someone can't read a map? I got us home, didn't I? Got your ASSchooled wit out ass king. I love ya, blue! This was more fun for me... You? Welllllll, I'll buy!

Sorry to here about Your Honey Bun there Hub. I bought a GPS for the truck and now we don't speak. Shhhhh. She Loves me, lol
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Ok, This I what have to get started with. I was going to pick the bearings up from work but the bearing #s I need will have a seal description at the end of the #. U know, what the seal is made of, or if it's sealed at all. Sealed both sides, sealed one side,,,, with SS or teflon, goes on and on.

From the reading above thinking cup and cone now ? No seals hmmmm Cups pressed in frame would suck but ok.

This bike is Brand New. No stoppies on this one. Stem is lose. OK = How ? Thinking Turbo Hot Air got into the four holes that are in the bikes Air box that lead into steering stem & blew grease out or seals are burn't. But, I filled the holes with JB weld,,,,, Can't get my head around it. Rattles under hard braking. Burnt seals wont give me rattle ????? so how ?

Next, how do I do this with out tipping bike over lol. I have portable A-Frame but bike can still tip. Yes I can strap the shit out of it but there must be a easier way ? How does the shop do it ? Stand can't be used because it goes into stemmmmm, ahhhh.

Please don't say lift off oil pan. Would work but No.

I know this is not hard but I have never seen it done, so please place knowledge in me weee brain lol. I now have brain cramp and must shut down. Cheers


This is not a fresh bearing ball sitting on an old divot = WE ON THE SAME PAGE, seen your?

Same page = We R

Two bearings,four seals.That's what he needs....end of story.

Blue can you take those bearing out of the package and read both sides ?


Oh ya, where do I buy that socket. Jam Nuts made of the finest Swiss Chocolate. Screw Driver Sinks in.


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RE: Bearing #'s
10/21/11 8:58 PM

Romes..you can't use what I said last night.I was misinterpreting the diagram.Hub was right on with his explanation of the race(s) upper and lower.I missed that.Somehow.I will say this...only...IF it were me...before lifting anything and all that,I would get that nut loosened at least to the point of being able to turn it with some force.Once your bike's up and in a precarious place balance wise,trying to break that nut free MAY be a real bitch.IDK.Mine took some working and grunting to loosen initially.It wasn't a simple nut job.Not mine anyway.

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RE: Bearing #'s
10/22/11 1:33 AM

Hey Romes...can I ask ya a question?You ARE gonna have something underneath your bike right? to be able to help with the load bearing?A jack,or a stand like in the manual?Tell me yer not just gonna let er hang from the rafter beam just by that alone.It will be bearing almost the total weight of yer beautiful bike.

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RE: Bearing #'s
10/22/11 5:55 AM

Ok, got it.


Hey Romes...can I ask ya a question? You ARE gonna have something underneath your bike right?

No, I have a portable A-Frame to lift. But I have used the rafter trick before. Works. Use to lift snowmobiles up for the installing of the Woody studs in the tracks for Ice. Lots of work done from those rafters lol. Sled = 750 lbs. yikes


What I was planning on doing was to remove gas tank and choke around air box or frame. This will work to lift the bike but bike but she can still twist and fall over. The only thing I have to steady bike is back stand = It's going to fall over. I can feel it. The house I'm in now has NO access to rafters to use for steadier. I have dozens of ratchet straps but nothing to attach to.

What killing me is I have gear to lift 30 tons in one shot and this little bike has got me scratching my Noodle. Go Figure.

Blue how did you do it ? "underneath" did you lift from oil pan ?

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RE: Bearing #'s
10/22/11 6:21 AM

5. Ho-me does not need special tools for the lockers. Weeeeeeee... Jam nuts my ass. More like bust balls.


Ok how,Soft soft soft. Screw driver rag sinks in ?

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RE: Bearing #'s
10/22/11 10:24 AM

Okay Romes...my mechanic uses a jack(pnuematic)under the exhaust.He lifts it from there.I never watched him.I started lifting at home here with a floor jack and a flat 2x6 under there.Placed it under the oil pan.Started the lift.Rear in the stand.Started lifting...had the front tire light on the pavement.Stopped.She was just too unstable for my liking.Aborted the lift.But he said he does it under the exhaust.I thought that was a bit risky stressing those header bolts...but..apparently it's okay if ya go easy and lift gently.IF you get that stand in the manual...it has a fitted,wider attachment area for contacting the frame there or whatever it does.Looks like the way to go to me.You've lifted your snowmobiles...okay...so you have a good idea then about raising something 'heavy'.IF you had a center stand...like the Euros do,you could rock that baby back on her rear tire,and slide somethin under the front engine area there,the front end would be a breeze to pull out(I mean...you wouldn't have to worry about..you know...falling over and such.Sounds like a pretty intense job to me....no thanks.I don't envy you at all.If you're NOT SURE that you actually NEED to do this...I'd definitely MAKE SURE before getting in too deep.But that's just me.Do the test as Hub said...it's in the manual as well.You may not NEED what you think you do.A clunk or whatever could just mean a retightening of the rings and such on there.I've honestly never heard anyone here say they had to replace their steering head components.????Hell....I'm just talkin from MY perpective...you probably will get er done like clockwork.I wouldn't trust myself with this...even though the Hub instructions are VERY GOOD and correct,and exactly the way to do it.

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RE: Bearing #'s
10/23/11 10:05 AM

ROFL, Blue, is that a green bike in your Avatar ? Times R a changing, Weeee.


Ya, must find out how this has happened. We fix.

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