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Created on: 01/09/13 03:35 AM

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NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/09/13 3:35 AM

Hey guys its another cold day in CT but its a good day for dreaming about spring and summer. Is anyone heading to one of these tracks for a day or two?? I plan on doing a few and whated to see if there are any other nut cases out there??



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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/09/13 5:57 AM

Plan on hitting the new New York Safety Track and NJMP this season. Gonna push those dates to at least May got to make sure it's at least 60*. I hate the cold suprising since I'm born and raised in Buffalo N.Y. Did you go to NCbike in November? I was there Nov 3.



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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/10/13 3:47 PM

I'm riding with TeamProMotion all season at all their tracks in the North-East, hoping to log in at least 30 days in 2013. I also ride at Loudon with anybody if the weather is nice- Boston Moto, Tony, Fishtail etc., hoping to do another 8-10 days there in 2013.

I usually fight the winter depresion by building yet another bike, it helps a lot.
I'll be heading to NC and VIR in March, can't wait!

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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/10/13 3:52 PM

Here's the 2013 TPM schedule (keep in mind the newly redone Pocono!)

http://teampromotion.com/event-schedule/


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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/10/13 4:55 PM

Yeah I'm drooling over the schedule this year. NCbike is my local track, VIR North is my favorite track. You going for the full throttle membership?



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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/10/13 6:19 PM

Guys that sounds great for sure! Silver I need to make a plane to hit the NY Safety track also. When will it open and who's runnin there? I ran with Tonys in NH it was pretty good. Didn't love the track but the back bowl was awesome for sure. And NJMP thunderbolt with Pro Moton. They were also nice guys. I was going to hit NJ last April but your right it was way too cold. I think may it just about right. Lol

I've been really thinking about buying another bike for track days and to take some of the mile off my baby. maybe a 1000RR or a 1198. I'd like to go with either of them but who knows I'm sure I'll just stay with one bike.



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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/10/13 10:33 PM

I've been really thinking about buying another bike for track days and to take some of the mile off my baby. maybe a 1000RR or a 1198. I'd like to go with either of them but who knows I'm sure I'll just stay with one bike.

It all depends on how bad you want that 14R! I would do it though. Here is something that should be just about perfect:

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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 3:38 AM

O Shit Drag your not helping my addiction! LOL If I had the steam I;d keep my baby and put her i my office buythe new 14R and have a Duck Street Fighter for something diff and then the HP4 for track and back and forth to work. Now that would be just about right! Heck if I blow out the old lady I could probably do that! LOL



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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 9:48 AM

Heck if I blow out the old lady I could probably do that! LOL

LOL Wishful thinking?
I hear you though. Three bikes is just perfect. One for track, one for top speed events, and one just to get around.
I really like the HP4 but modification on that bike are a PITA. You shouldn't need to on a bike like that but I don't think the engineers were thinking about me (6'5-220) when they made it...



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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 12:43 PM

Yeah, beat this set up here...

http://weraclassifieds.com/ads/2011-bmw-s1000rr-larry-pegram/

But again, why so in love with bikes that you can ride to about 25% of their potential?
Those same bikes that will cost $5K in hard parts just to repair after a minor lowside.
I would save a lot of $$$ on the "track bike" and invest in track time and tires.

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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 12:52 PM

I would look at these:

http://weraclassifieds.com/ad-category/motorcycles/yamaha/

or these:

http://weraclassifieds.com/ad-category/motorcycles/suzuki/

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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 1:37 PM

Mass I hear you but I can say I did get to ride a 2012 ZX10 at the Thunderbolt and it went very nice. I mean there was no where near the power I have on tap but with time I would actually be faster on the ZX10 because you can hammer it in the turn and she isn’t going anywhere as far as sliding out. If I do that on my baby either she’s coming out or the front wheel is going to the sky! Lol

Even with the weight my girl lost with the BST wheels and other carbon and titanium goodies the ZX10 flicks around like a 95lbs Asian girl listening to gangdom style! Hahahah



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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 3:04 PM

I've posted this video before... a 1000 cc is not necessarily "faster" around a track than a smaller displacement bike, even on the fast NJMP Thunderbolt. These are ccs experts, Mike on the gixxer coaches for TPM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcNYf3iwvuk

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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 3:46 PM

I've posted this video before... a 1000 cc is not necessarily "faster" around a track than a smaller displacement bike, even on the fast NJMP Thunderbolt.

I agree but you have to see it from our perspective. I'm 6'5-220lbs, 230 to 235 lbs during the winter (I'm more religious with training). So a 600 is out of the question. I understand that on a track you spend less time in the seat so proper ergonomics is not so much a factor but trust me I tried and 600's and 750's are just too small. Furthermore, I plan on doing less than 10 track days a year (I know wishful thinking) so my liter will see a lot of street mile. I can ride the Beemer to Kerrville (2hours from here) and then be fresh enough to ride the sisters the same day. I couldn't do more than 30 minute on a 600. Also the street is not that technical, we have a lot of open sweepers here and with the S'tho top end the fun can be had pretty easily. Like I said though, I get you if I was shorter and lighter, the 600 would have been my weapon of choice. I "demoed" a 675R right after the Beemer last year and it was really fun. I felt like I was on a unicycle. I was going in corners way too hot, turning late etc but I never felt like I was pushing it. I enjoyed it more than the S'tho actually!


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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 4:55 PM

If it's mainly street with the occasional track day a liter bike may appear better suited.

However, when you go down at the track (certainly not if) you'll end up busting up a very expensive ride.

Furthermore if you want to attend the track more seriously you'll have to have extra sets of wheels with race rubber and rain rubber, also race bodywork (top $$$ for the bimmer and very little used gear anywhere). The hours spent swapping oem for track stuff feel like days sometimes, unless you're willing to risk the shiny factory fairings. Unless put putting on street tires is ok.
And then comes the suspension aspect- you can't ride at the track with street setting and vice versa unless you're pace is very novice and clicks don't really make a difference.

That 1000 will also chew up through tires like there's no tomorrow! On the 10r I get 2 track days out of two rears and one front (VB Michelin Cups/ Slicks), you do the math on the tire expenses alone. Tire wear rate without warmers and without dialed in real suspension (not oem junk) will be even quicker.

And so on...

Bottom line is- do you want to own a nice and shiny bike or do you want to become a better rider by attending many track days and race schools on the same budget?

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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 4:58 PM

And at your height 220 lbs. is skinny IMHO

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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 5:40 PM

So far I think TPM and Nesba have gotten NYST May is when TPM starts running there. Yeah most of the coaches from TPM have 600's crazy fast. You think your doing something and they blow right by you like your standing still. I've been looking at 1k's to add one to the stable they are really not much bigger than the 600's IMO. Seen the HP4 in person WOW!! what a bike but the price tag.



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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 5:42 PM

Bottom line is- do you want to own a nice and shiny bike or do you want to become a better rider by attending many track days and race schools on the same budget?

lol I wish the wifey would fall for that! Track days improve your riding but this is the last reason people do it for. Truthfully, I just want to improve my skills so I can ride the street a little harder while being safer. I got into riding too late and my long body isn't suited for any racing aspiration. I would also like to start MMA by the end of the year. Plus... it's just too expensive!!! I know the street is dangerous etc but I'm more TT than GP. It may change after my first track day and I may just become a track addict but for now, I have no plans of doing more than 10 track days a year if that!
And at your height 220 lbs. is skinny IMHO

lol I get that a lot from people who never met me lol That being said I'm not saying I'm big, I'm just not skinny. I'm a Jon Jones with 20-30 more lbs of muscle mass lol Also muscles make you look bigger than your weight if you understand what I'm saying...
Bottom line is that for me the 600's won't do.

Do you still your 14? What sprocket did you use with the BST's? I was wondering if a supersprocket (gold and black) will work with those.


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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 6:44 PM

I run a 41 black Vortex. I wanted to go with the supersprocket but they don't offer one. The Vortex lasts about one riding season. 8,000 to 10,000 miles per year. I love all size bikes but I'm a larger liter guy. I love my big girl and I will say I'm fast on the track and always up front but it is a little like taking a machete to an operation instead of a scalpel. I'm just saying I think I can ride faster on the 385 lbs 1000cc than my girl. But who knows I'd love to time myself on both and see how it goes....



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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 8:46 PM

I'm a Jon Jones with 20-30 more lbs of muscle mass

DE Chandler Jones? LOL

What sprocket did you use with the BST's?

Vortex on the 14, 41 and 42T. Yep, I still have it. AFAM and Driven on the 750 in 520, I have two rear BST wheels for it. AFAM on the 10r and Driven on the new cbr in 520.

None of them will last as long as steel sprockets but that's why I stash lots of them.

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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/11/13 10:59 PM

I wanted to go with the supersprocket but they don't offer one

That's too bad the gold and black supersprocket would have been sweet!
I love my big girl and I will say I'm fast on the track and always up front but it is a little like taking a machete to an operation instead of a scalpel. I'm just saying I think I can ride faster on the 385 lbs 1000cc than my girl. But who knows I'd love to time myself on both and see how it goes....

You will be faster! The only place a 14 will be faster is in a straight line.

DE Chandler Jones? LOL

LOL close but no. Now I remember you old avatar (Patriots stadium/field). By the way Chandler's listed at 266 lbs noooo way! He's probably 245-250 tops. I played College ball and I know how the scale thing go. I was talking about his brother not the fat one, the skinny one lol Jon Jones is 205 and HE is skinny but still I can't see him on a 600 lol

Vortex on the 14, 41 and 42T. Yep, I still have it. AFAM and Driven on the 750 in 520, I have two rear BST wheels for it. AFAM on the 10r and Driven on the new cbr in 520.
None of them will last as long as steel sprockets but that's why I stash lots of them.

Copy that! We're way off topic but do you have any pics of the CBR and how does it compare to the 10R?



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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/12/13 8:00 AM

@ Dragking.....I'm 245 without gear and my 600 is plenty capable of hauling me around a track! If you set them up right in the turn you can actually pass liters on the straights(unless they are really long). I LOVE passing 1000s on my "little" 600!



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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/12/13 10:25 AM

do you have any pics of the CBR and how does it compare to the 10R

I'm considering build threads for both bikes with pics and stuff but can't stay motivated keeping track of all the progress. The cbr is being put together as an unlimited superbike- it's a complete overhaul and I'm close to finishing it, should be ready for March. The 10r is more mildly built but plenty capable, just hasn't been turned into a track-only bike yet.

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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/12/13 12:52 PM

@ Dragking.....I'm 245 without gear and my 600 is plenty capable of hauling me around a track! If you set them up right in the turn you can actually pass liters on the straights(unless they are really long). I LOVE passing 1000s on my "little" 600!

I know, I have seen your vids lol
The ergos more than anything is what is keeping me away. If I was looking for a track only bike I would really try to make it work but I need to be able to commute from time to time. I will 100% after my first track days (June 1st) or maybe sooner if I can go to Nola.
I'm considering build threads for both bikes with pics and stuff but can't stay motivated keeping track of all the progress. The cbr is being put together as an unlimited superbike- it's a complete overhaul and I'm close to finishing it, should be ready for March. The 10r is more mildly built but plenty capable, just hasn't been turned into a track-only bike yet.

I'll be very interested in seeing what you come up with.



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RE: NJ, NY or NH Track Days
01/16/13 7:44 PM

I live just one hour away from NJ Motorsports and still haven't being able to attend one of their events. Every time I make plans to go always something comes up at the last minute. In the early 80's I used to work for a dealership in NYC and we attended lots of races at Pocono Raceway.

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