You are an absolute master of the SWB!

that's good but this guy gets my vote

swb master

Full grudge SWB is something I would love to do. I can't imagine what this bike would do with 20k dropped into it.

Edit: I just went back and watched it. He throws the clutch away when the lights drop. That's a hand slider. Zero respect from me.

* Last updated by: maverick1441 on 11/24/2014 @ 4:01 PM *

He throws the clutch away when the lights drop. That's a hand slider. Zero respect from me

try doubling the hp and keeping a stock clutch in a bike see what happens .

take me and you lets say your bike has 200 hp and your weight is 145lbs. my bike in order to run with yours with my 290lbs would need 400hp to match your power to weight ratio. my clutch would be easier to slip due to having more weight and more hp with the same clutch setup you run. so not everybody can run the same clutch setup

* Last updated by: Badzx14r on 11/27/2014 @ 8:12 AM *

My weight is 180+ suited. You can run a single or two-stage lockup and still leave by hand. Running a slider takes the rider out of the equation. Cut a light and just hang on. I can only respect the mechanic that set up the clutch.

You can run a single or two-stage lockup and still leave by hand. Running a slider takes the rider out of the equation. Cut a light and just hang on. I can only respect the mechanic that set up the clutch.

I'm sure the riders of the other bikes are surely impressed with your stock clutch SWB you can blow that horn and pound your chest all you want but nobody will give 2 fukks. cause nobody has a stock clutch SWB class but please do let me know when you win something .

I sense a bit of insecurity coming from the big fella. I clearly stated that I can respect the mechanic that set up the clutch. But since you bring it up.... I get compliments on my riding every single time I go to an event (including Baton Rouge). The simple fact is that ANY rider can put down great ET on a slider setup while very few guys can go 8s on a stock motor stock wheelbase setup. That's the reason they won't do a stock wheelbase stock clutch class. There simply isn't enough talented riders out there to make the field at several tracks. Now keep in mind that I'm only responding to a jab that you threw. For some reason you couldn't stand for Sebastian to give me a compliment and you flew to youtube to dig up someone who was quicker than me at stock wheelbase. Nevermind it was a full built motor with an automatic rider function (slider). Now there actually is a SWB class held in Baton Rouge once or twice a year. It's a power adder legal class so I am at a considerable disadvantage. I went semi-finals last year and then lost when the bike didn't make the 1-2 shift (forgot to check CO2 pressure). Do you know Mean Gene on the blue 04 ZX10? Dude is scary fast on that little setup. It's a long way from stock, but he is still riding the plastic off the thing.

Look Bad. Let's squash whatever this is starting to become. I still look forward to bumping into you in Baton Rouge. Let's go heads up straight off the trailer and afterwards if you still feel like you want to jab then it is what it is.

All you want to do is put down everybody that doesn't ride stock clutch SWB bikes. I didn't post the video for bashing I posted it cause he rode an 8.20 on a SWB bike period. I haven't seen nobody do that before or since Like I told you start a SWB stock clutch class and see what you win be the man . ive seen 8'S on SWB gsxr's 10 years ago so that not like something new. oh and that class went to shit like they all due because 1 guy keeps winning everything. AMA Supersport if I remember right the rule was had to use all stock OEM parts EXCEPT PIPE & PC

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Do you know Mean Gene on the blue 04 ZX10? Dude is scary fast on that little setup. It's a long way from stock, but he is still riding the plastic off the thing.

DON'T KNOW HIM BUT BEEN AROUND HIM Back in the old Hurricane Alley Racing days

I'VE had to race wheelie bar bikes in Street ET before talk about unfair and bending rules . but then again I use to race weekly would enter 3 events same day same bike.

* Last updated by: Badzx14r on 11/28/2014 @ 5:42 PM *

I know a guy personally who's been 7s on a stock wheelbase bike (first gen busa) with a hand operated lock up clutch. The sky is the limit as long as your $$$ is long enough. The supersport class your referring to was a head and cams legal class. I used to chat with Patrick Cooper over on Psychobike about what it took to get those bikes moving. At first glance they look pretty much stock, but that's where it ends. Extensive chassis prep, trick bearings, trick fuel, supersport head and cam package, and he never would divulge the rest of it. If you look at the MPH they were putting down it's easy to see that the power levels were far beyond factory. O and the average weight for those guys was around 125 lbs ha ha. That makes me feel like a fatty. But see that's why the biggest names in the game are the go-to guys to pilot SWB factory bikes when they release. "They are the baddest riders on the planet" That's what it takes to extract everything possible from a stock arm bike. Everyone one of them competed in the supersport class back in the day. Rickey, Ryan, Joey,....

Have they produced a flyer for the State Capital race yet?

The supersport class your referring to was a head and cams legal class

I can't remember all they did I've slept since then but I do remember OEM parts only

Have they produced a flyer for the State Capital race yet?

no . i'll keep a looking plus I'm still putting bike together 2 more weeks of build time

"They are the baddest riders on the planet" That's what it takes to extract everything possible from a stock arm bike.

I know a guy personally who's been 7s on a stock wheelbase bike (first gen busa) with a hand operated lock up clutch. The sky is the limit as long as your $$$ is long enough.

* Last updated by: Badzx14r on 11/29/2014 @ 9:36 AM *

i'll take money over skill for a dollar.

That is essentially what this sport has come to. I would enjoy a bone stock class. ZERO modifications allowed. Doesn't get any cheaper than that for a class. Buy a bike, race the bike. Good times had by all.

. I would enjoy a bone stock class. ZERO modifications allowed. Doesn't get any cheaper than that for a class. Buy a bike, race the bike. Good times had by all.

I've even got a better class build what you want and race it then after the race each bike is for sale for $3,000.00.
All bikes are for sale after the race and anybody buying can buy and racer has to sell even to another racer.

This will get racing back to knowledge and skill if somebody wants to bring a $30,000.00 bike to win the event and the $1,000.00 prize fine then that bike will be offered for sale after the race with all the others for $3,000.00.

Ha ha.. That's interesting to say the least. What about having 2 identical bikes at the track to make passes on by the participants. Ladder style elimination. There's no complaining about this bike or that bike. Weight vest to make the races fair for big fellas?

Ha ha.. That's interesting to say the least. What about having 2 identical bikes at the track to make passes on by the participants. Ladder style elimination. There's no complaining about this bike or that bike. Weight vest to make the races fair for big fellas?

I've been to 3 races like that the most entries was 4

That's a shame... I guess no one believes in their own riding ability. Grudge racing is much the same in that regard. No one wants a fair race.

1 of them short wheel base challenges videos

I have actually watched that video several times. I want to see how close I can get to those times on a bike set up similarly.

Would definitely step up and run any of those guys heads up on the same bike.

* Last updated by: maverick1441 on 12/1/2014 @ 4:54 PM *

Would definitely step up and run any of those guys heads up on the same bike.

one of the locals here won the 1st hand clutch SWB challenge here a few years back . shine was the only known name to me at that event then and not a big turn out for it

* Last updated by: Badzx14r on 12/2/2014 @ 7:58 AM *

Yeah I've been down the track beside Keith before.

Guys, if you don't mind me stepping in between you, I have a question: what is the Brocks slipper eliminator for? What does it do to track and street manners? If you guys are talking about racing virtually stock bikes why is the stock clutch inadequate?

I have raced cars on the qtr mile but never a bike, I am looking at buying a ZX14 so I a goal of mine is to get it down the track and to run a sub 10.0, even a 9.999 would be a lifetime achievement for me. Now, I will run it stock and see where I go from there but I am 6'1 and 210lb without leathers so how much will that slow me down? I know a gearing change will help me but its a street bike first and I don't want to ruin its street manners. Although I never drag raced my street bikes I always practiced launches on the street to get that type of launch tuned in (and it helps for quick getaways when the traffic lights change) so I cant wait to race.

I would like to do the usual mods: exhaust (4 into 1 would be good), tune, air filter, maybe lower a bit and change gearing. I like doing mods step by step so I can see the gains rather than buying a list of parts and chucking it all on.

You guys make a 9 second 145mph+ run seem commonplace but its just not that common here, it must be the air over there

Mav - if i had a full slider clutch and I set it up then do i still get the credit for a good run? Im a hands on guy, i wont be paying anyone to set it up, its all my work and all my reward.

* Last updated by: OZrevhead on 1/12/2015 @ 1:01 AM *

Good work too guys, can we get best times into the original post? Anyone have more times to post up?

on the eliminator from Brocks.
I found the stock clutch letting loose in the higher gears.
The slipper is useful when scratching the tight stuff.
But I never missed it once it was gone.
The bike did pick up about 3 MPH so it eliminated any slip that was there.
The factory clutches are soft and the extra stiffness helps.
They tend to bog down a lot with the slipper installed when drag launching from mid range RPMs.

The trickiest part of all when drag racing a 2013> 14R is turning off all the factory safety gear installed in the ECU.
Woolich Racing can help there.
Once you can do this they come alive and are pretty consistent.
you will be pulling 9 something most times out.

Adjustable links and a strap are all you need along with a good Shinko Drag style radial.
The Shinko can stay on if your not daily riding it.
then once you know where you stand with it experiment with gearing.

Na leave the slider alone OZ. For what your trying to do a stock clutch will be completely fine. Lower the bike as slow as you can safely get it and get to the track. You won't even need an aftermarket exhaust system to go 9.9. My personal best as of today is an 8.93.

I'm with you on the slider deal, Mav. It does bug me how a lot of classes are "hand clutch" classes and the guys with Rocks get away with it since it is hand activated. It definitely does take all of the rider ability out of it. That being said, I rode a slider bike for the first time last season and i have to say it was badass! The only part about riding a bike like that is having faith that everything will work right cause your pretty committed as soon as you throw the clutch. My first pass on it, I asked my buddy right before if I could trust it, he said yeah. So, I set it on the 2 step and threw that sucker! haha

What does bug me, is when all the guys post their fast bikes with fast passes saying its a "hand clutch" as in trying to pass it off as a stock clutch with springs or something.

Thats one thing about me. I don't have anything to hide. There is always someone quicker/faster.

Lol...local season opener test & tune last Saturday...snowed an inch the day before so they didn't do any prep work other than sweep the track...it hasn't been prepped since last fall...she was greasy...think I had some major traction issues...real nice way to do my NHRA licensing and start the year on a new setup hahaha...